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Vetteman94 said:

 

I don't agree to theprof lynch, although I do find it troubling that he doesn't seem to be taking the votes against him very seriously especially given that he has 3 votes on him.  

I do think that radish is trying to hard to look like town with his vote for a no lynch. and for that I will

Vote: radishhead

and 

Vote: Time Extension

 

I didn't really like the prof lynch at the time either, but I did want it over no lynch. I am glad the extension went through though. I probably would have unvoted prof, but I don't like a radish lynch one bit so I'm keeping it placed.

I don't think your reasoning fits radish at all.



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Vetteman94 said:
Baalzamon said:
I honestly don't understand people's reasoning in day 1 in this game. I know no way to explain it other than just plain stupid.

There's a reason I haven't been posting. I deem it to be a waste of my time.

Well maybe a "genius" like yourself can grace us with a better understanding of whats going on then.  Maybe help get the town pointed in the right direction instead of just being insulting about it.  

Otherwise, you are right, you posting is a waste of time

What's going on?  Well, to start the day, Prof lied out of his ass, and attempted to get spurgeon to admit being mafia.  We can either conclude that spurgeon had people helping him, and thus was able to thwart this attempt, or spurgeon isn't mafia, and was confused because of this.

Nothing about this was in any way scummy by Prof.  As a matter of fact, why in the hell would a scum lie about being a cop, and try getting a noob to admit being mafia?  It doesn't even make sense.

Other than that, there has simply been discussion about whether or not we should reveal who we will vote for with our investigation vote.

I'm sort of confused how somebody can't have an "understanding" of what is going on.

In regards to the investigation vote, simply putting an ounce of thought into it, it seems rather obvious that mafia do not themselves have a vote in it.  In a game with 11 players, we likely have 3 mafia.  So people here honestly think the mafia is going to get 3 out of 11 votes for who the investigation goes on?  I don't think Stefl would allow this.

Also, for those who think we should reveal who we will vote for with the investigation, it still makes no sense how this will help us in any way.



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theprof00 said:
I didn't even notice linkz voting for me.
Wow Linkz, you don't even have a shred of reasoning.

I knew moreno and Wonk had voted, but what can I say? They are clearly retards. :D

Linkz though, whoa man....no reasoning, and my impending lynch due to the time limit.
Thanks for the save Vette.

What to do, what to do.

Wonk has been a bit unclear in his reasoning, but he did open my eyes a bit. When you told FF he didn't have a vote because he was scum, that could have been a slip on your part. Also as Wonk has said, I want a lynch and yours was the only one I foresaw being able to happen within the timelimit. It's not as if I slipped the vote in at the last minute or didn't try to extend the day so there'd be more discussion and a likely better candidate for the gallows.

I do wonder how you missed the votals which declared you'd be lynched as of the standings at that time.



Baalzamon said:
Vetteman94 said:
Baalzamon said:
I honestly don't understand people's reasoning in day 1 in this game. I know no way to explain it other than just plain stupid.

There's a reason I haven't been posting. I deem it to be a waste of my time.

Well maybe a "genius" like yourself can grace us with a better understanding of whats going on then.  Maybe help get the town pointed in the right direction instead of just being insulting about it.  

Otherwise, you are right, you posting is a waste of time

What's going on?  Well, to start the day, Prof lied out of his ass, and attempted to get spurgeon to admit being mafia.  We can either conclude that spurgeon had people helping him, and thus was able to thwart this attempt, or spurgeon isn't mafia, and was confused because of this.

Nothing about this was in any way scummy by Prof.  As a matter of fact, why in the hell would a scum lie about being a cop, and try getting a noob to admit being mafia?  It doesn't even make sense.

Other than that, there has simply been discussion about whether or not we should reveal who we will vote for with our investigation vote.

I'm sort of confused how somebody can't have an "understanding" of what is going on.

In regards to the investigation vote, simply putting an ounce of thought into it, it seems rather obvious that mafia do not themselves have a vote in it.  In a game with 11 players, we likely have 3 mafia.  So people here honestly think the mafia is going to get 3 out of 11 votes for who the investigation goes on?  I don't think Stefl would allow this.

Also, for those who think we should reveal who we will vote for with the investigation, it still makes no sense how this will help us in any way.

If its as simple as putting an ounce of thought into it to come to that conclusion, then why do the rules state this.  The last line is the most important, I'll underline it,  dont need you using more than an ounce of thought

Night Investigation Vote:

- You are allowed to not cast a vote. If you don't want to vote, write my a PM stating that.
- A Draw will give the investigator the posibility to choose his target freely, between the persons who got the most votes
- You are not allowed to cast your vote publically, you have to PM me for it to take effect
- You are not allowed to misuse the mechanic behind it, you may ask for people to vote for a person, but not force them
- You are not allowed to force anyone to claim who they nighttime voted for
- Missusing the nighttime investigation vote may result in losing the ability to vote, the investigator losing his investigative Ability or Mafia manipulating the vote completely

Care to explain how that works if they get no vote what so ever?  Or would that take more than an ounce of thought?

theprof00 said:
also
unvote
vote Radish

"Wow [prof], you don't even have a shread of reasoning."



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Spurge- that's the most blatant revenge vote I've ever seen, and it looks crazy suspicious to me, especially as I know that I'm town-aligned - I know, because I've tried to disguise a revenge vote before- it's not very well hidden, I'm afraid. Whether you're town or not, I seriously recommend reconsidering that vote, because if I get lynched then you're going to be seriously considered for a lynch tomorrow due to your reckless actions



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theprof00 said:
radish is also a good possibility.
Out of these 5
Radish, spurge, noc, Linkz, moreno

I say we lynch one and vote another.

night investigate linkz, lynch radish.

So it's between me and 4 less experienced players eh?

Anyways, I'm not opposed to being investigated. It won't nail scum, but as you've said that means that though they'd love to eliminate me, doc-fear will push them to choose freely between everyone else in town. So in turn you're saying you want me around, yay! It'd be nice to go into day two as "confirmed" town too, since the cop need not come forward if everyone knows I was the target and nobody will point a guilty finger at me.(Be forewarned, I await your fear mongering)



radishhead said:
I don't understand why I'm being voted for putting up a no lynch - Ididn't realise that the time was nearly up, and I'd vote for a time extension now if it wasn't already active. I'm only saying no lynch because I don't agree with the reasoning behind prof's lynch - if you are all so against a no lynch on day 1, then I'll vote for who I really want to vote for, for reasons I said earlier

unvote: no lynch
vote: Spurgeon

Although after Linkz's strange vote very soon to the end of the day, it might be worth investigating him tonight - I would suggest Vette, but his vote on me was accompanied by a time limit, which gives more time to discuss

Do people simply ignore posts from mods, Stefl in particular? He had just posted votals declaring the day would be over in 10 hours before your NL vote. C'mon bud you're often chastised for missing things, do try to pay attention.



MetalGear_94 said:
theprof00 said:
I have a feeling that mafia are able to do even more than simply vote. I think they are able to completely manipulate the investigation.

What makes you think that? I would say that it would be unfair if they have even more power over investigations that we don't know about.

Really looking forward to the answer to this. prof went from stating mafia have no vote, to being first to declare all mafia had a vote, and finally this.



Wonktonodi said:

As for linkz vote although he didn't give much reason for it, he really doesn't need any reason other than wanting there to be a lynch today over a no lynch.

You get me Wonk, you really get me!

I really hope you're town, because I'm finding you easier to read after I've called you scum and you actually react.(no more rolling over!) Here it was more your general behavior though.