| MetalGear_94 said: Honestly, I think we should just make our night investigation votes public, so that at least we have control over whose being investigated. Having our votes scattered would just give more power to mafia then they need. |
No one should be making their actual votes public.
Even though I dont like it, the scenario Wonk refers to is unfortunately the route we will probably have to take.
| theprof00 said: I don't think you've addressed my point even once, Wonk. If a cop is forced to investigate someone, and that person is not mafia, what will the mafia most likely do? What will the doc most likely do? The obvious is that doc should protect that person, so we can protect a highly valuable confirmed role. That leaves mafia to go after someone who is NOT the investigation target, and has free reign over who to kill without worrying about the doc. Now, if the doc wants to play the WIFOM game with the mafia and protect someone in the town, that's the doc's decision. All I'm saying is that when I'm mafia, I like to go after people who are likely to be copped, because the more people that are cleared later on, the more difficult the game becomes. I would rather mafia not have a shot at this player. This is why I proposed discussion. I have no idea why you would vote for me over that. I submitted my thoughts, even played devil's advocate, and proposed discussion. The fact is, you are meta-gaming, which is a much better scum indication than most. |
There is no If the cop will always be forced to investigate. It will just be a matter of if we as a town discuss it so that we have more power or if we give it all to the scum.
If we decide in public who we want copped. We put the mafia and doc in WIFOM. If we don't the mafia would more likely have control over who get's investigated (so no chance of mafia) and can still go for the kill of the person ivestigated.
What you bring up makes it more about who we should have copped. Not if we should. We can decide as a town to have the person investigated that we want to be protected in the night. Or the person who we don't quite want to lynch. If mafia and the doc are more likly to go after ther person we pick then by all means lets make them.
Once again the discussion for that as well as the regular lynch discussion gives us an extra layer to try and fing scum since scum would not want to have themselves investigated.
| Vetteman94 said: 1. The point still stands though, if a cop wanted to investigate someone, who eventually turns up mafia, but everyone votes to investigate someone else who turns up town. You proposed a what if situation, I did as well just the opposite, scenario. What ifs arent a good thing to base this on. 2. Never said it would, ws just making the point that if he was who we asked to have investigated, chances are we lose him right away. 3. Well I cant say I am happy to read that. But I now have to agree that it is safe to assume that. Unfortunately now it seems we have to collaborate on who to send votes for, as the Mafia would have possibly 3 votes. they can swing the vote in any direction they want...... nothing like being handcuffed by the rules..... 4. I guess..... All that really is changing is we just have to focus, and now document in game, on 2 candidates other than the one that gets lynched...... If we go with the 2 choices method. 5. I barely have enough time to play the game. But your statement would have more validity if the games started on Sunday or Monday, But this game started on Friday, before the weekend...... |
Part of my points were just made in terms of that mafia might not just take out the person we investigate if they fear the doc or if the person chosen is scum. Even if it was a certain death sentence that would still mean that town would have more influence on the night kill.
4. Pretty much
5. Late friday or early saturday for our mod so still "weekend" in the sence he wouldn't have to worry about being up to late or have things he needs done by the next day. Plus you were asking in general :P
Prof there were multiple reasons for my vote on you. Most of them not included in my post.
I agree on the discussion but we shouldn't made our vote public because IMO that could be easily manipulated by the scums.
And if I am reading the rules right. The investigator has the freedom to choose if there's a draw?
So if that is the case, I think we should give that honor or privilege to the investigator so at least he will have the freedom to choose who is going to be investigated and we shouldn't take that power away form the investigator.
I think I am seeing what Prof and Vette are trying to say. What if the investigator thinks that a certain person is scum and he wants him to be investigated and we chose another person to be investigated he will be forced to investigate that certain person. What if that certain turns out to be a town and the person he wants to investigated turns out to be a scum so just like I said from the 2nd paragraph we shouldn't take that away from the investigator.
Anyways FoS on metalgear for even suggesting that we should make our vote public.
Yeah, why would me make our votes public? That wouldn't make any sense, Mafia could easily use them in their favor.
EDIT: Also, not sure why it's bolded 
A question for the MoD.
I just read the whole thread just now.
Why is prof's vote counted when he didn't even bolded his vote. Can we now vote without the Bold part?
EDOWOP Or whatever:
OMG, I forgot I wans't supposed to edit D:
| NoCtiS_NoX said: A question for the MoD. I just read the whole thread just now. Why is prof's vote counted when he didn't even bolded his vote. Can we now vote without the Bold part? |
Because the vote was written in a seperate line - I will count votes if they are somehow in the standard voting agreement - because onvoting is easy and forgeting to bold something also is easy... so I am going to count anything by the lines of:
Vote Stefl1504
Vote: Stefl1504
Vote Stefl1504
Vote: Stefl1504
While I won't count:
I think I am going to vote Stefl1504
but I will count:
I think I am going to
Vote Stefl1504
prof always had the possibility to voice his discontent, but did not do so, and thats why his vote is still counted
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