bannedagain said: Yep, Just as your fox news talking points. Lets just agree to disagree. Personally I think need to study some sociology |
They aren't talking points. They are actual factual numbers that you can look at and weigh for yourself.
Furthermore, what exactly is "Fox News" about the gini coefficent being higher because illegal immigrants are inherently disadvantaged in our society and essentially work as an underclass to fuel economic growth. I don't watch Fox news but I was always under the impression they liked to paint Illegal immigrants as people who lived high off the hog stealing government benefits and american jobs. Painting them as a crushed lower class with no chance for advancement that is one of the largest causes of income inequality sounds more like it would be the talking point of an "Amnesty for Illegal aliens" group.
Since essentially that would mean giving illegal aliens amnesty/have open immigration and suddenly the gini coeffcient should drop a lot and economic mobility should increase.
Hell it's one of the things used to try and get the California Dream act passed.
Aside from which... what about what I said is in anyway a talking point or incorrect?
The whole point of a debate is trying to disprove someone, not the blind restating of your opinion over and over again. You stated an opinon, which I countered through a number of facts and figures.
The next step would be to argue why those facts and figures are incorrect, or at the very least admit ignroance on the matter.
Though yeah... i'd suggest studying sociology. You'd have a much different idea about why income dispairty exists and what could actually be done to change it.
You'd actually learn a lot of interesting information.
For example. The Gini Coefficent for individuals is almost completely unchanged from 1994.
It's gone UP for households and families. (IE peoples living together).
However the amount of money people make vs each other is relativly unchanged.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1Y25WlUbsXM/TqdJJKE5YHI/AAAAAAAAEgc/mEfoQs_f7xs/s1600/US-Gini-Coefficient-for-Individuals-Families-Households-1994-2010.png
Part of this is due to the sociological trend that people marrying outside of their income bracket is MUCH less likely then it used to be.
Which is actually why we have staganancy in economic mobility. It's increasing in oppurtinity through work, but decreasing through oppurtunity by mating.
One can guess that with women earning more and more money, people more want to marry someone "on their level" rather then one of them having to deal with the ego blow of the other person being the "breadwinner".
Two income houses on the rise also raises the gini coefficent because they essentially have double the money single income households due.
A lot of the gini coefficent rise is suprirsingly less related to people gaining more money, and more related to changes in society.