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Cliff Bleszinski is of the opinion there’s more developers can do with Xbox 360, thanks to the six years studios have spent with the console’s architecture.

Speaking with Edge, Bleszinski said that since developers have had time to get familiar with 360s’ inner workings, it is easier to “squeeze” more out of the console despite its age.

“With creative programming you can squeeze anything out of any given platform,” he said. “Go back to the demo scene where these guys would take a 286 PC and in 38k make a demo that rivalled the most triple-A game of the time.

“It’s just a matter of code magic, time and effort. I don’t know how much longer the 360 will be around, but I’m sure that if we have a product coming out before the end of [its] lifecycle we’ll continue to try and squeeze more water from that stone.”

This is exactly what the team behind Gears of War 3 did, according to Blezsinski, who said Epic pushed the console “even further” than it had before.

“We’re kind of at that point where in the SNES [days] they started using Mode 7 in ways you never expected,” he said. “We’re now at at the point where it’s not learning how to use the hardware, it’s learning to trick the hardware into doing what you want it to do.

“The first thing I was ecstatic about was the new lighting…we’re at the point where an artist can just let the artist breathe, a nice brick wall can just be a nice brick wall; it doesn’t need 8000 pipes layered on it.”

Xbox 360 was released in 2005, and there has been many a rumor, especially of late, regarding the next iteration of the console.

The latest rumor has the system being cheaper and smaller with a Windows 9-based operating system.

http://www.vg247.com/2011/11/08/getting-more-out-of-360-is-a-matter-of-code-magic-time-and-effort-says-bleszinski/



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Well imagine the results you would get out of new consoles with "code magic, time and effort"



i wish these devs would just shut up with this "getting more out of" sh!t already



enditall727 said:

i wish these devs would just shut up with this "getting more out of" sh!t already


Why?

You don't want developers to keep pushing consoles?

You don't want developers to keep coming out with more impressive games year after year?

 

What kind of gamer doesn't want that?



Persistantthug said:
enditall727 said:

i wish these devs would just shut up with this "getting more out of" sh!t already


Why?

You don't want developers to keep pushing consoles?

You don't want developers to keep coming out with more impressive games year after year?

 

What kind of gamer doesn't want that?

i never said that i didnt want "developers to keep pushing consoles" nor did i say that i didn't want "developers to keep coming out with more impressive games year after year"

what i said was that --> "i wish these devs would just shut up with this "getting more out of" sh!t already" <-- this is what i said and it is EXACTLY what i ment

i believe Blizinski made a comment about "squeezing more out of that lemon" like just a little over a month ago if i'm not mistaken

like what exactly does he mean "getting out of" that we have not seen on console's already? it's starting to get cliche ..to me atleast

you took my comment and made it more than what it really was.. i cant stand when people do that but whatever..



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enditall727 said:
Persistantthug said:
enditall727 said:

i wish these devs would just shut up with this "getting more out of" sh!t already


Why?

You don't want developers to keep pushing consoles?

You don't want developers to keep coming out with more impressive games year after year?

 

What kind of gamer doesn't want that?

i never said that i didnt want "developers to keep pushing consoles" nor did i say that i didn't want "developers to keep coming out with more impressive games year after year"

what i said was that --> "i wish these devs would just shut up with this "getting more out of" sh!t already" <-- this is what i said and it is EXACTLY what i ment

i believe Blizinski made a comment about "squeezing more out of that lemon" like just a little over a month ago if i'm not mistaken

like what exactly does he mean "getting out of" that we have not seen on console's already? it's starting to get cliche ..to me atleast

you took my comment and made it more than what it really was.. i cant stand when people do that but whatever..


On the contrary,

It seems to be you that's taking what the developers say as more than what it really was.

 

Developers saying "getting more out of" or "squeezing more" means they are advancing.   You seem to be attributing that as something that it isn't.

ADVANCEMENT/ADVANCING game development is a good thing, enditall727.



we need new consoles



Persistantthug said:
enditall727 said:
Persistantthug said:
enditall727 said:

i wish these devs would just shut up with this "getting more out of" sh!t already


Why?

You don't want developers to keep pushing consoles?

You don't want developers to keep coming out with more impressive games year after year?

 

What kind of gamer doesn't want that?

i never said that i didnt want "developers to keep pushing consoles" nor did i say that i didn't want "developers to keep coming out with more impressive games year after year"

what i said was that --> "i wish these devs would just shut up with this "getting more out of" sh!t already" <-- this is what i said and it is EXACTLY what i ment

i believe Blizinski made a comment about "squeezing more out of that lemon" like just a little over a month ago if i'm not mistaken

like what exactly does he mean "getting out of" that we have not seen on console's already? it's starting to get cliche ..to me atleast

you took my comment and made it more than what it really was.. i cant stand when people do that but whatever..


On the contrary,

It seems to be you that's taking what the developers say as more than what it really was.

 

Developers saying "getting more out of" or "squeezing more" means they are advancing.   You seem to be attributing that as something that it isn't.

ADVANCEMENT/ADVANCING game development is a good thing, enditall727.

woah i forgot all about this thread

i almost didn't feel like replying back lol

no im mainly targeting cliff blezinski because this was the 2nd time he said something about it within like 1 or 2 months

and what exactly could they be "advancing" that we have not seen already this gen? ESPECIALLY on the 360(no offense to any 360 fanboys who took that personal)

not much huh, persistanthug? :)



enditall727 said:
Persistantthug said:
enditall727 said:
Persistantthug said:
enditall727 said:

i wish these devs would just shut up with this "getting more out of" sh!t already


Why?

You don't want developers to keep pushing consoles?

You don't want developers to keep coming out with more impressive games year after year?

 

What kind of gamer doesn't want that?

i never said that i didnt want "developers to keep pushing consoles" nor did i say that i didn't want "developers to keep coming out with more impressive games year after year"

what i said was that --> "i wish these devs would just shut up with this "getting more out of" sh!t already" <-- this is what i said and it is EXACTLY what i ment

i believe Blizinski made a comment about "squeezing more out of that lemon" like just a little over a month ago if i'm not mistaken

like what exactly does he mean "getting out of" that we have not seen on console's already? it's starting to get cliche ..to me atleast

you took my comment and made it more than what it really was.. i cant stand when people do that but whatever..


On the contrary,

It seems to be you that's taking what the developers say as more than what it really was.

 

Developers saying "getting more out of" or "squeezing more" means they are advancing.   You seem to be attributing that as something that it isn't.

ADVANCEMENT/ADVANCING game development is a good thing, enditall727.

woah i forgot all about this thread

i almost didn't feel like replying back lol

no im mainly targeting cliff blezinski because this was the 2nd time he said something about it within like 1 or 2 months

and what exactly could they be "advancing" that we have not seen already this gen? ESPECIALLY on the 360(no offense to any 360 fanboys who took that personal)

not much huh, persistanthug? :)


FXAA, for example?

 

*win button*    ;)



ya same case for PS3 but too bad only 1st-party developers willing to do that...