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sapphi_snake on 06 November 2011

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German cleaner cleans Kippenberger art piece to destruction

Dortmund - A German cleaner has destroyed an art installation by the late artist Martin Kippenberger that was on loan to the Ostwall Museum, Dortmund, Germany, from a private collector.

Over zealous cleaning by a German museum cleaner has destroyed an art installation on loan by a private collector to the Ostwall Museum in Dortmund. “When It Starts Dripping From The Ceilings" is a piece of art by the acclaimed German artist Martin Kippenberger, who died in 1997. Prior to its cleaning the piece was valued at $1.1 million by insurers. The Herald Sun described the piece as "a tower of wooden slats under which a rubber trough was placed with a thin beige layer of paint representing dried rain water." Mistaking the paint for a stubborn stain the cleaner scrubbed away at it until it was gleaming. The Telegraph reported that museum spokesperson Dagmar Papajewski said "It is now impossible to return it to its original state." Papajewski also said that the cleaner may not have been made aware by the outside contractor of the museums rules that cleaners should remain at least 20cms away from the art on display.

LOL this i must say describe the so called "modern art" perfectly.

Put some garbage together , find a fitting name for it and voila you are famous sculptor.

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean the problem lies with the art.

Just because the sculptur thinks he has talent doesn't mean he does

Obviously he's not the only one, since he's appearently considered to be an important artist by other people.

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Alby_da_Wolf on 06 November 2011

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German cleaner cleans Kippenberger art piece to destruction

Dortmund - A German cleaner has destroyed an art installation by the late artist Martin Kippenberger that was on loan to the Ostwall Museum, Dortmund, Germany, from a private collector.

Over zealous cleaning by a German museum cleaner has destroyed an art installation on loan by a private collector to the Ostwall Museum in Dortmund. “When It Starts Dripping From The Ceilings" is a piece of art by the acclaimed German artist Martin Kippenberger, who died in 1997. Prior to its cleaning the piece was valued at $1.1 million by insurers. The Herald Sun described the piece as "a tower of wooden slats under which a rubber trough was placed with a thin beige layer of paint representing dried rain water." Mistaking the paint for a stubborn stain the cleaner scrubbed away at it until it was gleaming. The Telegraph reported that museum spokesperson Dagmar Papajewski said "It is now impossible to return it to its original state." Papajewski also said that the cleaner may not have been made aware by the outside contractor of the museums rules that cleaners should remain at least 20cms away from the art on display.

LOL this i must say describe the so called "modern art" perfectly.

Put some garbage together , find a fitting name for it and voila you are famous sculptor.

This reminded me of Alberto Sordi's segment of the movie "Where are you going on vacation?" in which visiting Venice Biennale his fat, tired wife sits down to rest and while staying still, waiting for him to take her something to eat and drink, is mistaken for an art installation by a little crowd of people pretending to be modern art connaisseurs, some ready to offer tens million lire (tens thousand dollars, the film is from 1979, it was still a considerable sum back then) for her.

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Zlejedi on 06 November 2011

sapphi_snake said:

Zlejedi said:

sapphi_snake said:

Zlejedi said:

German cleaner cleans Kippenberger art piece to destruction

Dortmund - A German cleaner has destroyed an art installation by the late artist Martin Kippenberger that was on loan to the Ostwall Museum, Dortmund, Germany, from a private collector.

Over zealous cleaning by a German museum cleaner has destroyed an art installation on loan by a private collector to the Ostwall Museum in Dortmund. “When It Starts Dripping From The Ceilings" is a piece of art by the acclaimed German artist Martin Kippenberger, who died in 1997. Prior to its cleaning the piece was valued at $1.1 million by insurers. The Herald Sun described the piece as "a tower of wooden slats under which a rubber trough was placed with a thin beige layer of paint representing dried rain water." Mistaking the paint for a stubborn stain the cleaner scrubbed away at it until it was gleaming. The Telegraph reported that museum spokesperson Dagmar Papajewski said "It is now impossible to return it to its original state." Papajewski also said that the cleaner may not have been made aware by the outside contractor of the museums rules that cleaners should remain at least 20cms away from the art on display.

LOL this i must say describe the so called "modern art" perfectly.

Put some garbage together , find a fitting name for it and voila you are famous sculptor.

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean the problem lies with the art.

Exactly the politically correct way of thinking that makes them "art"

I think you overuse the term 'politically correct'. You use it to liberally, and in contexts where it makes no sense.

Also, I don't understand why you hope to achieve by flashing your ignorance. Just because you don't understand art doesn't mean you should vent your frustration on artists or connosseurs. You're just displaying the same attitude the masses have always manifested towards art that was contemporary to them.

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That's the whole truth behind your "ignorance" , "you don't understand" rhetoric.

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badgenome on 06 November 2011

The cleaner should claim that he was engaging in performance art, a thought-provoking rumination on the striking similarities between modern art and trash.

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sapphi_snake on 06 November 2011

Zlejedi said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes

"The Emperor's New Clothes" (Danish: Kejserens nye Klæder) is a short tale by Hans Christian Andersen about two weavers who promise an Emperor a new suit of clothes that are invisible to those unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent. When the Emperor parades before his subjects in his new clothes, a child cries out, "But he isn't wearing anything at all!" The tale has been translated into over a hundred languages.^[1]

That's the whole truth behind your "ignorance" , "you don't understand" rhetoric.

edit:

Also this ad by Skoda catches it perfectly:

WOW, a tired clichee like The Emperor's New Clothes? Really?

How about you learn a little bit about rhetorics, and then try to construct a coherent argument.

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Zlejedi on 07 November 2011

sapphi_snake said:

Zlejedi said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes

"The Emperor's New Clothes" (Danish: Kejserens nye Klæder) is a short tale by Hans Christian Andersen about two weavers who promise an Emperor a new suit of clothes that are invisible to those unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent. When the Emperor parades before his subjects in his new clothes, a child cries out, "But he isn't wearing anything at all!" The tale has been translated into over a hundred languages.^[1]

That's the whole truth behind your "ignorance" , "you don't understand" rhetoric.

edit:

Also this ad by Skoda catches it perfectly:

WOW, a tired clichee like The Emperor's New Clothes? Really?

How about you learn a little bit about rhetorics, and then try to construct a coherent argument.

Does the truth hurt ?

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osamanobama on 07 November 2011

Zlejedi said:

sapphi_snake said:

Zlejedi said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes

"The Emperor's New Clothes" (Danish: Kejserens nye Klæder) is a short tale by Hans Christian Andersen about two weavers who promise an Emperor a new suit of clothes that are invisible to those unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent. When the Emperor parades before his subjects in his new clothes, a child cries out, "But he isn't wearing anything at all!" The tale has been translated into over a hundred languages.^[1]

That's the whole truth behind your "ignorance" , "you don't understand" rhetoric.

edit:

Also this ad by Skoda catches it perfectly:

WOW, a tired clichee like The Emperor's New Clothes? Really?

How about you learn a little bit about rhetorics, and then try to construct a coherent argument.

Does the truth hurt ?

at first i though sapphi was joking but is he really defending that crap as art?

i shit better art than that shit.

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Turkish on 07 November 2011

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That wasn't actually bad for an artist, i've seen much worst "Shit" art that was just ridiculous.
take Yu Kobayashi for example , this is what she made.

or for REAL "Piss poor" artists, try andres serrano, why i say piss poor you ask? well you can wiki it.

Tl;dr.

he actually use his piss and semen to produce his "Art" , and was most famous of a picture of him pissing on a small figure of jesus , that picture made him an "Artist" , or "arts" by him are pictures of piss and jizz mixed together.

more of his "Arts" include old people having sex, a woman holding a horse's dick, a woman in lingerie stained in her period's blood, and some other "shit" like that

Many todays artists are attention whores. They have no creativity so they clinge on something that will be shocking, sexist or just plain simple kids work. I agree with you. Thats why I love 16-17th century creations like Rembrandt.