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Forums - General - Poll:When will the banking system collapse?

 

When will it come down?

2012 17 31.48%
 
2013 14 25.93%
 
2014 9 16.67%
 
2015 14 25.93%
 
Total:54
snakenobi said:
Marks said:
snakenobi said:
Marks said:
At the rate we're going with the Fed printing more money every day, and stupid gov't regulations it won't be too much longer.

If Ron Paul gets elected in 2012 that should save the US Economy as he'll shut down the Fed and probably get rid of many of the regulations that are hurting banks.


the entire world is dependent on it

I'm not sure if you're exaggerating or not. Would it actually effect the rest of the world that much if the US fixes its banking system (i.e. shuts down the fed and removes harmful regulations) and stops the ridiculous inflation and all the other negative effects?

where do you think EUROPE banks got their bailout money frm?

where do you think goods produced in germany,china,india go.

 

it will be a domino effect for the entire globe

 

they willuse this to form a new global currency will will do the same thing USA does today make wars and enslave people in economic slavery


Good point. Never thought of it that way. I've just been getting more into economics in the last few months so I'm still figuring stuff out. 



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Marks said:
At the rate we're going with the Fed printing more money every day, and stupid gov't regulations it won't be too much longer.

If Ron Paul gets elected in 2012 that should save the US Economy as he'll shut down the Fed and probably get rid of many of the regulations that are hurting banks.

The Fed was created by the 16th Amendment, so a lot more than a presidential executive order would be needed to take it out



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HappySqurriel said:

In an ideal system that is what regulation is ...

A large portion of existing regulations are in place to protect the interests of the well connected, to appease special interest groups or appeal to important voting blocks, or to give the politician the ability to claim that they're standing for something. When you have federal, state/provincial, and municipal regulators each enforcing meaningless and often contradictory regulations, the regulations can represent a substantial burden on business while offering little in the way of benefit to businesses.

 

The current regulations may not be right, but that doesn't mean that regulations on banks are a bad idea in general. More solidly enforced stability in the banks (especially in terms of liquidity) would have prevented many of the effects of the '09 financial crisis. The credit crunch would still have cost the banks just as much, but they would have been better able to pay it.



Mr Khan said:
Marks said:
At the rate we're going with the Fed printing more money every day, and stupid gov't regulations it won't be too much longer.

If Ron Paul gets elected in 2012 that should save the US Economy as he'll shut down the Fed and probably get rid of many of the regulations that are hurting banks.

The Fed was created by the 16th Amendment, so a lot more than a presidential executive order would be needed to take it out


Damn, that's rough. Has an amendment ever been removed before?



Marks said:
Mr Khan said:
Marks said:
At the rate we're going with the Fed printing more money every day, and stupid gov't regulations it won't be too much longer.

If Ron Paul gets elected in 2012 that should save the US Economy as he'll shut down the Fed and probably get rid of many of the regulations that are hurting banks.

The Fed was created by the 16th Amendment, so a lot more than a presidential executive order would be needed to take it out


Damn, that's rough. Has an amendment ever been removed before?

Only the 18th, which was removed by the 21st, but that was prohibition



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Mr Khan said:
Marks said:
Mr Khan said:
Marks said:
At the rate we're going with the Fed printing more money every day, and stupid gov't regulations it won't be too much longer.

If Ron Paul gets elected in 2012 that should save the US Economy as he'll shut down the Fed and probably get rid of many of the regulations that are hurting banks.

The Fed was created by the 16th Amendment, so a lot more than a presidential executive order would be needed to take it out


Damn, that's rough. Has an amendment ever been removed before?

Only the 18th, which was removed by the 21st, but that was prohibition

Ahh okay so definitely not an easy task. I think it could be made easier considering how desperate the times are, ending the fed could start to get rid of tons of US debt and end inflation/devaluation of the dollar. 



Marks said:
Mr Khan said:

Only the 18th, which was removed by the 21st, but that was prohibition

Ahh okay so definitely not an easy task. I think it could be made easier considering how desperate the times are, ending the fed could start to get rid of tons of US debt and end inflation/devaluation of the dollar. 

Can anyone prove that? Even if one were to assume the long-term effects would be good, poking at something so fundamental to the modern economy in the short term could likely do irreperable damage that would tear society asunder anyway



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Marks said:
Mr Khan said:
Marks said:


Damn, that's rough. Has an amendment ever been removed before?

Only the 18th, which was removed by the 21st, but that was prohibition

Ahh okay so definitely not an easy task. I think it could be made easier considering how desperate the times are, ending the fed could start to get rid of tons of US debt and end inflation/devaluation of the dollar. 

Actually, I think people had enough of the fed that they would vote for an amendment to abolish the fed.  I don't see any state voting down an amendment to abolish them.  Almost everyone dislikes the fed right now.



The banking system can't collapse it's as simple as that where is the option??

Can you provide some links to where your getting your information because it seems to me like a lot of Doom mongering with a little bit of financial lingo without alot of proof, not trying to shoot you down here i just want to understand your postition alittle more



sethnintendo said:
Marks said:
Mr Khan said:
Marks said:


Damn, that's rough. Has an amendment ever been removed before?

Only the 18th, which was removed by the 21st, but that was prohibition

Ahh okay so definitely not an easy task. I think it could be made easier considering how desperate the times are, ending the fed could start to get rid of tons of US debt and end inflation/devaluation of the dollar. 

Actually, I think people had enough of the fed that they would vote for an amendment to abolish the fed.  I don't see any state voting down an amendment to abolish them.  Almost everyone dislikes the fed right now.

You also need a two-thirds majority in both houses of Congress. Would not happen when so many financial institutions benefit massively from the current situation, and both political parties have atleast some element that believes in deficit spending - which the fed can facilitate.

I think public mandate, coupled with a Ron Paul presidency (early on in his term), would allow for a bill conducting an audit to pass, and maybe some light tinkering around the edges. The only kind of constitutional reform that could pass would be one that isn't limiting on the current congress - say a balanced-budget amendment that doesn't come into effect until 2020. Ron Paul could still run a balanced budget earlier, but the constitution wouldn't limit it until 2020.