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VGKing on 28 October 2011

Don't have an account on IGN but I do visit the site regularly. Loved their Uncharted 3 review!



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thismeintiel on 28 October 2011
Ajescent said:
ishiki said:
Ajescent said:
ishiki said:
well this case.

It is a critisism if you want to play the game on easy. It's not a fulfilling to that particular person it should get dinged. If they don't want people to play it in easy. DONT PUT AN EASY MODE IN.

However stated. I know review in formats are not that good. But videogame reviews everywhere in general are so awful essentially everywhere including this site. Yes there might be a few reviews. But videogame reviewers have.

But look at the meta average everywhere. The review scale should not be 90% in the 6-10 range. That's omitting 6 whole points on the scale.

Oh it could be argued that hiding the endings from easy mode adds replayability?

yes, but from that revieweres perspective it didn't. That's why there are more than 1 review on the internet. From that persons perspective the review was completely valid imo.

if you don't like the game that much to begin with you're not going to want to replay it again. It can add replay value for certain people, and I'm sure it's reflected in those reviewers scores. Or it can negatively take away from the experience like it did in this case. The perspectives should even out.

Obviously the best review would incorporate both perspectives but then assigning it a numerical score doesn't really work.

But...it's his job, it's what he gets paid to do...played the game from start to finish and test the game as best he can.

Everybody knows that Easy mode is when the game doesn't try too hard. Think about it, if Dark Souls had an "easy mode" for example and the reviewer played that and then said the game was really easy and didn't live up to the expectation. That's being unfair to the game, it's the exact opposite of people moaning that game X didn't get 10/10 without playing it.

My thoughts exactly.  There are various sites who get their reviews out late, since they actually require their reviewers to have played the whole game.  However, a lot of the bigger sites are more worried about releasing exactly on the day the embargo lifts, therefore  getting the most hits.  They take shortcuts and don't explore all aspects of the game.  And on some occasions, don't even read the button layout. 

Then you have the ballooned scores of late.  Anything below a 9 is viewed as not being good, even though an 8 means exactly that, it's good.



 

oniyide on 28 October 2011

used to love IGN, their and EGMs reviews were my gospel, for the most part. BUt in the past few years i found myself agreeing with them less and less. Conduit?? 8.5?? Funny when I read the review it felt like I was reading one for a 7.0 game at the most. and surprise when I did play it, thats exactly what it felt like. It felt like the reviewer was too much in love with his Wii to actually give it the REAL score. 9 for Crysis?? No game that glitched that much should ever get a 9. I still go there every now and then. THey do get reviews out fast as hell, and I actually like their coverage, but i no longer look up to their reviews like I used to



oniyide on 28 October 2011
RolStoppable said:
oniyide said:
used to love IGN, their and EGMs reviews were my gospel, for the most part. BUt in the past few years i found myself agreeing with them less and less. Conduit?? 8.5?? Funny when I read the review it felt like I was reading one for a 7.0 game at the most. and surprise when I did play it, thats exactly what it felt like. It felt like the reviewer was too much in love with his Wii to actually give it the REAL score. 9 for Crysis?? No game that glitched that much should ever get a 9. I still go there every now and then. THey do get reviews out fast as hell, and I actually like their coverage, but i no longer look up to their reviews like I used to

IGN was too much in love with themselves when they reviewed The Conduit. The thing is that they were the first website to cover the game and gave it much needed exposure, so it could eventually get a publisher in Sega. If you get involved in a game like this, you feel inclined to give it a higher score than it deserves, because you don't want to make yourself look stupid for hyping it up for months.

Your right, no other site or mag gave Conduit near that much attention.  I dont know why they didnt see it for the "meh" game it actually was, should have save some of that enthusiasm for GE, a FPS on Wii that was actually good. Either way from that point my faith in IGN went down. 



Andrespetmonkey on 29 October 2011
RolStoppable said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

Everything Nintendo-related he did? Such as? I've only seen 2 or 3 articles. Only one was badly recieved. 

"that infamous Nintendo podcast that IGN put together for the sole sake of garnering traffic"xD Nintendo voice chat was put together before daemon was even at IGN, it's not "infamous" in the slightest, unless you are talking about a specific episode. 

"If you only followed his work when it comes to the HD consoles, he might actually be quite decent at his job." I think he's a lot more than "quite decent" at it, I'm pretty confident in saying he's actually one of the best reviewers around, I've seen plenty of people who will agree with that. He also hosts and produces the most popular gaming podcast on the internet. Look, after listening to him on his show for the last year and a half, it's clear that he's very objective when it comes to things he posts on the site, and I think he's probably the only editor at ign that doesn't have a clear preference to one system or company. Also, he's a nice guy. 

I won't go into detail as to why I defend this guy so much, but do you see my point here? You can't judge him as a whole based on a few articles. That's like judging Speilberg on Gremlins 2. (Not comparing Speilberg to Hatfield here lol)

Yes, I am talking about a specific episode. Read a summary here, a link to the podcast itself can be found at the bottom of the same post. The summary also includes a complaint about Hatfield's WiiWare reviews and it seems to be a general theme that Hatfield doesn't like the Wii because it's not another HD console.

I can see your point and I've acknowledged it in my previous post when I talked about the different perceptions people can have about Daemon Hatfield. In the same way, you should be able to see why he doesn't rank highly among Nintendo fans.

Alright. Yeah he's not a fan of the Wii, he thinks it's gimmicky and dated, I and most other people would probably agree but he wasn't the best person to review wii games. 



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TheBardsSong on 29 October 2011

Daemon has always been an idiot, I stopped visiting once they redesigned the site and replaced all the good staff.



miz1q2w3e on 29 October 2011

lol got caught lying by the dev

So he's the same guy that wrote that NSMBWii article... IGN should get better people



thismeintiel on 29 October 2011
Andrespetmonkey said:
RolStoppable said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

I keep my original reasons. Sure, maybe he should of defended himself better, but my more important point was that this is a very rare occurance, infact, I'm not aware of anything else he's done like that. And people are so quick to talk shit about him and ignore his other stuff, and a pretty big reason as to why people do this is simly because he works for ign.

"we should hold Daemon Hatfield to a higher standard than an average forum poster "And I do, but I can see past one apparantly crappy editorial to see a lot of his much better work. He probably regrets that editorial and has learnt from it. 

 

He actually does get a crapload of praise for a lot of his stuff, especially his podcasts and music. What bothers me is how people talk so much shit about him on well, forums. It's one editorial for fucks sake xD. And he explained in a blog post what happened with pixeljunk. http://www.ign.com/blogs/daemon-ign/2011/10/26/concerning-my-pixeljunk-sidescroller-review/

And I do, but I can see past one apparantly crappy editorial to see a lot of his much better work. He probably regrets that editorial and learnt from it.

It really isn't just one crappy editorial he wrote, but pretty much everything Nintendo-related he did. Because of that there can be two completely different perceptions of Daemon Hatfield. If you know pretty much only what he did when it comes to Nintendo, he is one of the worst journalists in the business. If you only followed his work when it comes to the HD consoles, he might actually be quite decent at his job.

Apparently he was on that infamous Nintendo podcast that IGN put together for the sole sake of garnering traffic (which they admitted to). They pretty much devoted the entire thing to Nintendo trolling.

Everything Nintendo-related he did? Such as? I've only seen 2 or 3 articles. Only one was badly recieved. 

"that infamous Nintendo podcast that IGN put together for the sole sake of garnering traffic"xD Nintendo voice chat was put together before daemon was even at IGN, it's not "infamous" in the slightest, unless you are talking about a specific episode. 

"If you only followed his work when it comes to the HD consoles, he might actually be quite decent at his job." I think he's a lot more than "quite decent" at it, I'm pretty confident in saying he's actually one of the best reviewers around, I've seen plenty of people who will agree with that. He also hosts and produces the most popular gaming podcast on the internet. Look, after listening to him on his show for the last year and a half, it's clear that he's very objective when it comes to things he posts on the site, and I think he's probably the only editor at ign that doesn't have a clear preference to one system or company. Also, he's a nice guy. 

I won't go into detail as to why I defend this guy so much, but do you see my point here? You can't judge him as a whole based on a few articles. That's like judging Speilberg on Gremlins 2. (Not comparing Speilberg to Hatfield here lol)

Are you secretly Daemon Hatfield? 



 

Soleron on 29 October 2011

I can't be negative about IGN because

http://uk.ign.com/ipl/starcraft2/tournaments/ipl3



osamanobama on 29 October 2011
oniyide said:
used to love IGN, their and EGMs reviews were my gospel, for the most part. BUt in the past few years i found myself agreeing with them less and less. Conduit?? 8.5?? Funny when I read the review it felt like I was reading one for a 7.0 game at the most. and surprise when I did play it, thats exactly what it felt like. It felt like the reviewer was too much in love with his Wii to actually give it the REAL score. 9 for Crysis?? No game that glitched that much should ever get a 9. I still go there every now and then. THey do get reviews out fast as hell, and I actually like their coverage, but i no longer look up to their reviews like I used to


oh geeze dont get me started on Crysis.

that has got to be one of the most overhyped game ever, mainly due to its marketing propaganda about its engine.

how a game gets a 9, declared the best FPS of the year, and best graphics with sooo many glitches, hiccups, slowdowns, bugs, brain-dead AI, frame rate drops, screen tearing, jaggies gallore, pop-in, etc.

i have never seen so many HUGE flaws be over looked before, it had to be blatant. and when actual reviews and analysis come out about all those faults (namely DF and Lens of Truth) the reivewer (who seemed like a fanboy with an agenda) dismissed it, acting like those things werent there