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sieanr said:
Microsoft is, and has always been, far more interested in pushing downloadable movies.

The HD-DVD drive was added to the 360 as a measure to muck up the format war and try and prevent Bluray from taking off. It was only done to slow the growth of an HD disc and thus make things easier for a download service to take off.

And I'm sure the profits from the add-on didn't hurt either.

Never, sony and microsoft will never partner.


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sieanr said:

So you think that Microsoft has to partner with Sony to make a Bluray add-on?

Last I checked manufacturers had to go to the Bluray forum for that sort of thing, which is an organization thats more than just Sony. Also keep in mind that there are plenty of other companies that make Bluray drives.

And you seem to be thinking that a business is one coherent organization. Often what one division does is contradictory to another. I'm sure Sonys electronics division would love to have the 360 play BR, and MS would love to take that advantage away from the PS

I agree,  MS and Sony surely have complex strategies (that sometimes backfire on them).

MS doesn't need Sony's permission to use HD-DVD, but I'm quite sure they won't adopt high capacity media for games, but only for movies, on XBox360 for two reasons: first, the new games would be incompatible with old XBox360 unless equipped with BD add-on, second, as you said, sticking on a lower capacity format hampers or even nullifies PS3's capacity advantage in multiplatform titles. This same thing, that time not for media capacity, but for RAM size, in the past seriously damaged good PC games, like Morrowind and Thief III, that were forced to more or less drastic level fragmentation due to being multiplatform, PC and XBox 1, with the latter, originally thought to have 128MB RAM, but halved to 64 to reduce the eccessive costs, that forced developers to unnecessary compromises on the PC versions (the alternative would have been a more costly redesign of the different versions and levels). Morrowind suffered less, Thief III more,  but luckily they remained very good games despite the annoying unnecessary loadings and portals, what I can't forgive XBox 1 for is being the cause of Deus Ex's sequel lobotomization (this one caused not only by HW limits, but also by the dumb attempt to extend its target to people less willing to think playing games, definitely an idiocy in a game born quite complex and liked also for this).

 

 

 


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Well there are gonna be pissed HD DVD owners out there if Microsoft suddenly decides to stop HD DVD.



I'll be watching with interest. Hard to imagine 360 with BR player - hard to imagine 360 without any ability to play HD movies assuming BR goes ahead and wins.

Tough call.



While it is possible, I don't think MS will go Blu at all. Maybe it's a rumor that they will, but as I was looking at LIVE, I was amazed by the sheer number of movies available for download. I thinks the HD DVD add-on was definitely a ploy to hit lightly at Sony. Folks say 'The 360 doesn't have an HD drive' and MS could just grin and say 'Yeah, the add-on.' It was smart of them not to include the HD DVD, because if and when the HD DVD player dies, MS can just wipe the HD DVD dust off their hands and focus on digital downloads.

Seriously, they'll make an hard-drive add-on that will offer 500gb to 1TB of storage for all of those digital movie's LIVE members can snag. It's cheaper than a disk and will last longer. It's the wave of the future, and not Blu. Before buying a few HD DVDs, I hadn't bought a DVD in a long time. As long as my 360 can stream movies to my TV, I could care less about the format wars.



Probably NEVER.
M$ is interested in LONG HD WAR.

IF EITHER format won`t win for next 3 years, then after 5 years M$ will be GOOD enough at DIGITAL DISTRIBUTION.
By that time there would be like 20% dvd, 20% BD and 60% DD.

In late 2005 Toshiba with HD-DVD already was going to left buisness, BUT, then suddently they got some BIG investments, from "unknow" company, and the war was going on.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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Sony is already making audio gear with iPod docks. If that's not an admission of defeat I don't know what is.

If Sony can concede such a huge market to Apple, I don't see any reason why MS can't concede to Sony.



Before Blu-Ray started dominating (right around the PS3 launch) MS said they would make a Blu-Ray add-on if HD-DVD lost. So, I'd say in a year-and-a-half or less. It wouldn't really eat into digital download sales, as only a few would buy it, probably the same people that buy the HD-DVD addon now.