I still have many ps2 games and they still work fine, I'm not so sure however if any current games will still work in 10 years.

Many games nowadays have a patch on day 1 to fix game breaking issues. Will the patches still be available in 10 years or will the copy on my shelf simply be broken. I could not even imagine playing GT5 without all the patches anymore. And now we get offline pass with Arkham city. The game on the disc is simply not complete, you have to download the rest.

All I see on my shelf now are a lot of games that simply don't work right out of the box.

I feel more inclined now to buy used and sell my games after I'm done with them. I can always pick up a goty edition or hd remake later. One good thing that's come from online pass is that you can get a used copy for the single player version a lot sooner for a good discount.

I don't like the idea of cheating the developer out of their cut by going the used route, but the online/offline pass mentality and releasing broken games that need day 1 patches is getting ridiculous.

could not agree more

although on the boxed games thing i was pro for game cases and stuff but now as im getting older im finding that i dont really want games all over the place.. if i could i would download EVERY game that i own onto my PS3. especally older PS1 & PS2 titles

Sorry Sven,

I usually don't mind a rant, but you are just whining unnecessarily.

''All I see on my shelf now are a lot of games that simply don't work right out of the box.''

Oh come on  >_> 

And somehow you have gone from ''should I keep my old games'' to this...

''I feel more inclined now to buy used and sell my games after I'm done with them''.

Your jump in logic is ridiculous. Makes me wonder about this one:

''I don't like the idea of cheating the developer out of their cut by going the used route''

Quite apt that someone with a typo in his name would 'agree' so readily with you.

OH NO HE DIDN'T.

Games *rarely* ship completely broken out of the box. There may be bugs and there may even be nasty ones that happen under certain specific circumstances but they're rarely broken.

Can you name me one game that is unplayable out of the box on the PS3 or 360?

-edit-

I should add I already know the answer to this is more than probably no.  Not because I know the specifics of every game out there, but because I know every console game has to go through a specific test of requirements in order to be shipped on that platform.  If the game doesn't work, it doesn't pass those requirements.

Yes, game breaking bugs may exist, but that has been true since the NES days and those only happen under specific circumstances where you're probably trying to break the game or gaming the game in some way other than normal play.

So, do you feel that older games are cluttering up your space? Or are you just wanting to get rid of them and maybe have a digital version of them?

Considering how many games I own, they don't really take up too much space. I have them all in like 5-6 boxes, neatly packed and put away somewhere where they are not in the way, but I can access them easily. I love owning physical copies, because I can play them anytime I want. You said it in the very first few sentences, questioning whether newer games/digital ones will work in 10 years time, which is why I love physical copies.

When you purchase a game digitally, you don't own it. The company is giving you a license to use it under specific circumstances, and they can revoke that right at their leisure.

Even if there are patches and such, the company can't come in and take away my right to use the damn game.

_-_ Unless it's EEA and you speak negatively about their game on a forum, I guess.

You missed the point of getting the goty full edition / hd remake.

I did buy boxed copies of The witcher 2 and Deus ex for pc, but I'm not sure what the point of that was now. I could have just as well downloaded the games on steam. That would have earned the developer more money surely, even for 10 dollars less? The only reason I didn't was that the price was the same and going to the shop is still faster then a 6 hour download.

If game studios undercut the used game market by offering a full digital download on week 2 for 10-20 dollars less, they would make a lot more money as opposed to online pass.

It also comes down to that I don't feel a lot of games are worth $60 anymore, be it a buggy uncomplete mess or a short single player experience.

Well The witcher 2 for pc didn't work for me until the first patch. For consoles I don't know. It usually doesn't say what the patches are for on day 1. I assume they should work, how else can people who don't have their console connected online play the game. That doesn't stop the stories of corrupt game saves for some games and people having to start over. I myself got stuck on a bugged quest in Fallout NV but could luckily revert to an older save 4 hours back.

However the news about the introduction of 'offline pass' for Arkham city where you have to download the rest of the game is not sitting right with me. Yes it is less then 10% of the game and the game still works fine without it, but it's a slippery slope.

I have boxes full of games too, and now and then I like to put in the an old burnout game or ssx. For pc I don't really bother since it's usually more trouble getting it to run then it is worth. That is slowly starting to be the same with console games. It's not pop in an older game and play anymore. You first have to re-install game data and download patches. Steam seems a good solution for me for pc games, although I'm also worried how long steam support will last. I hope longer then my 3.5" floppies :)

I guess I don't value new games as much anymore as I used to. It's the opposite with my movie collection. I would never sell any of them even though I rarely take the time to watch an old movie. At least I know they will always work exactly the same as when I last saw them.