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What do you think?

Yes 67 70.53%
 
No 28 29.47%
 
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Kasz216 said:
Dr.Grass said:
spurgeonryan said:
I had a funny reason that I wanted to add, but it would make Jay mad about recent things. By the way I have a thread about that if you want to share with all of us!

Humans do have free will. I just ate a carmel apple , did not have to, in fact something inside me (arteries) told me not to, but because of my free will I decided to eat it. Just like I decided to post here instead of the latest JoelCool7 thread, or one of my own.


That's not an argument at all. Just because things happened in a certain way and you feel you were the cause does not mean you are the cause - that's the whole point of this debate.


Maybe he's just an evolutionary biologist.  Oddly enough that's how most evolutionary biologists judge free will.


I seriously doubt that.



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no, i dont believe we do home skillet



Many people prefer to be slaves. Have you seen people picking up poop after their masters? They are led by the leash, too.



I have to say yes we do have free will. Simply put yah we can't control all the circumstances in our lives those are almost entirely dictated by our environments. However our decisions are not always dictated by our environments. Just because I have experienced this doesn't mean I am going to go that route.

There are contributing factors to every decision we make but in the end we still make the decision and nothing actually controls us entirely. Look at all those free thinkers or people who challenge what they have been raised on, what they have experienced and they choose to go in a different direction. That is a perfect example of free will.

In the end we all have free will to a degree. Even with a gun aimed at my head I still can make a choice and have free will to do so. Nothing forces you to make a decision, yah experience and logic can influence your decision making but they don't force you to make a decision.



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PullusPardus said:

i have a free willy.


i laughed 



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Free will is supernatural (or metaphysical if you want). I'm leaning towards a yes as I believe in other supernatural things.

But our free will is small, the input from your neural network and external stimuli is usually stronger in a person's decisionmaking



Dr.Grass said:
Kasz216 said:
Dr.Grass said:
spurgeonryan said:
I had a funny reason that I wanted to add, but it would make Jay mad about recent things. By the way I have a thread about that if you want to share with all of us!

Humans do have free will. I just ate a carmel apple , did not have to, in fact something inside me (arteries) told me not to, but because of my free will I decided to eat it. Just like I decided to post here instead of the latest JoelCool7 thread, or one of my own.


That's not an argument at all. Just because things happened in a certain way and you feel you were the cause does not mean you are the cause - that's the whole point of this debate.


Maybe he's just an evolutionary biologist.  Oddly enough that's how most evolutionary biologists judge free will.


I seriously doubt that.


Well you'd be wrong then.

Most evolutionary biologists & Psycologists believe how we act is all due to DNA we were born with before we were born. 

Most also believe in free will.

This was found in more then a couple studies that gauged religious belief by scientific field of study.

Here's one of them.

We anticipated a much higher percentage for option B and a low percentage for A, but got just the opposite result. One of us (Provine) has been thinking about human free will for almost 40 years, has read most of the philosophical literature on the subject and polls his undergraduate evolution class (200-plus students) each year on belief in free will. Year after year, 90 percent or more favor the idea of human free will for a very specific reason: They think that if people make choices, they have free will. The professional debate about free will has moved far from this position, because what counts is whether the choice is free or determined, not whether human beings make choices. People and animals both certainly choose constantly. Comments from the evolutionists suggest that they were equating human choice and human free will. In other words, although eminent, our respondents had not thought about free will much beyond the students in introductory evolution classes. Evolutionary biology is increasingly applied to psychology.

https://www.americanscientist.org/issues/id.3747,y.2007,no.4,content.true,page.5,css.print/issue.aspx



Our brains, and the entire universe is deterministic... So there is no free will.

But our brains do give us the illusion of free will so it's good enough for me.

Scientists can actually tell what you're going to think in ten seconds by monitoring your brain... The thoughts going through your head right now, the actions your doing while reading this... You already decided you were going to be doing them about 10 seconds ago...



Kasz216 said:
Dr.Grass said:
Kasz216 said:
Dr.Grass said:
spurgeonryan said:
I had a funny reason that I wanted to add, but it would make Jay mad about recent things. By the way I have a thread about that if you want to share with all of us!

Humans do have free will. I just ate a carmel apple , did not have to, in fact something inside me (arteries) told me not to, but because of my free will I decided to eat it. Just like I decided to post here instead of the latest JoelCool7 thread, or one of my own.


That's not an argument at all. Just because things happened in a certain way and you feel you were the cause does not mean you are the cause - that's the whole point of this debate.


Maybe he's just an evolutionary biologist.  Oddly enough that's how most evolutionary biologists judge free will.


I seriously doubt that.


Well you'd be wrong then.

Most evolutionary biologists & Psycologists believe how we act is all due to DNA we were born with before we were born. 

Most also believe in free will.

This was found in more then a couple studies that gauged religious belief by scientific field of study.

Here's one of them.

We anticipated a much higher percentage for option B and a low percentage for A, but got just the opposite result. One of us (Provine) has been thinking about human free will for almost 40 years, has read most of the philosophical literature on the subject and polls his undergraduate evolution class (200-plus students) each year on belief in free will. Year after year, 90 percent or more favor the idea of human free will for a very specific reason: They think that if people make choices, they have free will. The professional debate about free will has moved far from this position, because what counts is whether the choice is free or determined, not whether human beings make choices. People and animals both certainly choose constantly. Comments from the evolutionists suggest that they were equating human choice and human free will. In other words, although eminent, our respondents had not thought about free will much beyond the students in introductory evolution classes. Evolutionary biology is increasingly applied to psychology.

https://www.americanscientist.org/issues/id.3747,y.2007,no.4,content.true,page.5,css.print/issue.aspx


Before I read that  I would just like to say that my post there was an attempt to prompt you into giving info to back up a topic I find both fascinating and infuriated by at the same time.

thanks



Dr.Grass said:
Kasz216 said:
Dr.Grass said:
Kasz216 said:
Dr.Grass said:
spurgeonryan said:
I had a funny reason that I wanted to add, but it would make Jay mad about recent things. By the way I have a thread about that if you want to share with all of us!

Humans do have free will. I just ate a carmel apple , did not have to, in fact something inside me (arteries) told me not to, but because of my free will I decided to eat it. Just like I decided to post here instead of the latest JoelCool7 thread, or one of my own.


That's not an argument at all. Just because things happened in a certain way and you feel you were the cause does not mean you are the cause - that's the whole point of this debate.


Maybe he's just an evolutionary biologist.  Oddly enough that's how most evolutionary biologists judge free will.


I seriously doubt that.


Well you'd be wrong then.

Most evolutionary biologists & Psycologists believe how we act is all due to DNA we were born with before we were born. 

Most also believe in free will.

This was found in more then a couple studies that gauged religious belief by scientific field of study.

Here's one of them.

We anticipated a much higher percentage for option B and a low percentage for A, but got just the opposite result. One of us (Provine) has been thinking about human free will for almost 40 years, has read most of the philosophical literature on the subject and polls his undergraduate evolution class (200-plus students) each year on belief in free will. Year after year, 90 percent or more favor the idea of human free will for a very specific reason: They think that if people make choices, they have free will. The professional debate about free will has moved far from this position, because what counts is whether the choice is free or determined, not whether human beings make choices. People and animals both certainly choose constantly. Comments from the evolutionists suggest that they were equating human choice and human free will. In other words, although eminent, our respondents had not thought about free will much beyond the students in introductory evolution classes. Evolutionary biology is increasingly applied to psychology.

https://www.americanscientist.org/issues/id.3747,y.2007,no.4,content.true,page.5,css.print/issue.aspx


Before I read that  I would just like to say that my post there was an attempt to prompt you into giving info to back up a topic I find both fascinating and infuriated by at the same time.

thanks

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