Forza 4 outright has better graphics. Its fairly easy actually.
Firstly Forza 4 has higher resolution textures as seen above. ALOT more trackside detail closer to its reallife counterpart. And more realsitic lighting. Going into a tunnel for example looks alot better on Forza 4.
Both games make sacrifices, but GT5 makes alot more.
For example even though Forza 4 never drops a frame, it still holds a higher fidelity.
GT5 can drop as low as 30 FPS during gameplay. And at the same time have certain parts pixelated beyond belief. On top of that the Polyphony have taken alot of the realworld track detail out of the game. The lighting in GT5 is very good, but shadows during gameplay can be really pixelated.
Forza 4 does compromise some stuff like non player car reflections and some AA here and there.
But nothing near the framerate drops, resolution changes, lack of detail and poor shadows of GT5. GT5 is extremely inconsistant. Forza 4 remains alot more consistant at a higher quality visual rate than GT5 at all times.
Replays to in Forza 4 ramp up so much. Bearing iin my mind Forza 4 drops to 30FPS in replays like GT5 does, Gives Turn 10 alot more memory to play with and they use it. The level of detail in replays is amazing. As is the extra lighting.
Sound?
This is a complete non issue. Forza 4 DESTROYS GT5 sound.
As for features. What ever floats your boat. Personally Community Car clubs, Rivals mode and Forza 4's World Tour over Night Racing, Rally and Go Karts.
If I want a Rally game I'll buy a Rally game. Same for Go Karts. On the subject of Night Racing. This would be nice. However night racing is really what appens in the realworld outside of Lemans 24 hour and Singapore F1. Even F1 drivers dont really like it.
You've to add to the forza 4 compromises the following:
LOD cars differences between replay,in-game,game mode.
30fps Framerate on reflections and mirrors
Lack of shadows in interiors (such as when you get into a tunnel)
Smoke effect not affecting gameplay (like gt5 volumetric smoke does)
I also found the exact same bad shadows of GT5 in Forza 4 interiors and i don't know what resolution changes you're talking about...
The thing about framerate drops, that became much more bearable since 1.13. Try to understand that you're comparing a rock solid framerate in situations where there's no volumetric smoke effects, no rain, no 16 cars, and you've to remember that GT5 runs @1280x1080 pixels w/4xAA... it's rendering 50% more pixels than Forza 4 and twice the amount of AA.
Also, the lighting thing, that comes to the person opinion, because i think that Forza 4 lighting it's to overdone, and the GT5 lighting it's much more realistic, by a mile.
In environments, Forza 4 wins this easily. EASILY.
Cars? that goes to GT5. Autovista it's amazing, miles better than GT5, but in-game, and even in replays, the car detail it's better on GT5.
between what you posted and what i posted what do you think correlates back to votes?
you and ethomaz are correct. the game won the vote because it has more fanboys out there than any other game. I agree.
so anyone who purchased gt 5 is a fanboy?
er... no.
I am pretty sure I didnt say that.
well i spoke about the sales of the games then you replied with a comment about fanboys... what do the sales of the games have to do with fanboys?
funny thing is even though its smaller i've found the forza fanbase to be imo by far more aggressive and outspoken at least on other sites
it was in response to the fact that the game won a fan vote!
which I thought was rather obvious...
well i guess it depends on what we consider to be fans, i guess that for me a game with higher sales would tend to have higher fans but thats just my assumption
between what you posted and what i posted what do you think correlates back to votes?
you and ethomaz are correct. the game won the vote because it has more fanboys out there than any other game. I agree.
so anyone who purchased gt 5 is a fanboy?
er... no.
I am pretty sure I didnt say that.
well i spoke about the sales of the games then you replied with a comment about fanboys... what do the sales of the games have to do with fanboys?
funny thing is even though its smaller i've found the forza fanbase to be imo by far more aggressive and outspoken at least on other sites
Before forming an opinion you could have least at checked out N4G, Gametrailers and Neogaf but then again..sales equals quality right?
i never said so and i will never say so, imo thats one of the silliest myths in gaming today... when i posted the sales, however, i was just pointing out that i would expect sales of a game to have a higher impact on votes than a metascore as zanewane appears to believe do you disagree?