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What is better for each game?

Sound: Forza 4 29 6.26%
 
Sound: GT5 6 1.30%
 
Graphics: Forza 4 14 3.02%
 
Graphics: GT5 67 14.47%
 
Sound/Graphics: Forza 4 109 23.54%
 
Sound/Graphics: GT5 144 31.10%
 
Sound: Both about the same 1 0.22%
 
Graphics: Both about the same 6 1.30%
 
Sound/Graphics: Both about the same 16 3.46%
 
See results. 69 14.90%
 
Total:461
Aldro on 22 October 2011
Booh! said:
selnor said:
iWarMachine said:
 


You've to add to the forza 4 compromises the following:

LOD cars differences between replay,in-game,game mode.

30fps Framerate on reflections and mirrors

Lack of shadows in interiors (such as when you get into a tunnel)

Smoke effect not affecting gameplay (like gt5  volumetric smoke does)

 

I also found the exact same bad shadows of GT5 in Forza 4 interiors and i don't know what resolution changes you're talking about...

The thing about framerate drops, that became much more bearable since 1.13. Try to understand that you're comparing a rock solid framerate in situations where there's no volumetric smoke effects, no rain, no 16 cars, and you've to remember that GT5 runs @1280x1080 pixels w/4xAA... it's rendering 50% more pixels than Forza 4 and twice the amount of AA.

Also, the lighting thing, that comes to the person opinion, because i think that Forza 4 lighting it's to overdone, and the GT5 lighting it's much more realistic, by a mile.

In environments, Forza 4 wins this easily. EASILY.

Cars? that goes to GT5. Autovista it's amazing, miles better than GT5, but in-game, and even in replays, the car detail it's better on GT5.

Gameplay? it's the player's decision.

mmmmmm.

 

I'm not sure wy people here are tryinng to falsify or bring BS into te thread. Here are some actual facts. 

GT5 Version 2.0. ( The latest version ).

1280x720 = 4xMSAA. However not on sadows. 

1280x1080 = 2xQSAA. ( Which is a muddy looking AA result )

3D 1280x720 = 2xQSAA.

 

You could give a good example then, instead of adding more bullshit. First, there is no such things as 2xQSAA, there's only a Quincunx Anti Aliasing algorithm. Second, it is a patented NVidia technology, so let's read what NVidia says about it:

18. What is Quincunx anti-aliasing?
Quincunx AA is a special mode in GeForce3 where two samples are generated per fragment, but 5 samples are averaged together when filtering down, thus increasing the number of effective samples per pixel and giving higher quality than 2 sample AA with only slightly greater cost. The term “Quincunx” comes from the 5-pattern on the side of a die

(Geforce3 FAQ)

Quincunx is a heavier algorithm than 2xAA (which is used by FM4), but it gives better results, especially at higher resolutions (like 1280x1080).

GT5 Spec 2 being better confirmed, thanks a lot man. Can never trust Selnor :D



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Booh! on 22 October 2011
Michael-5 said:

2) When i looked at it, the car still looked a lot better then GT5, regardless of Time Trial or 16 player racing, and I only noticed the interrior lighting change.

Oh, sorry. I should have noticed your problem when you said that the car just missed lighting, while it is obvious to everybody else that it had an untextured and low poly interior. However:



MARCUSDJACKSON on 22 October 2011
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
hey i just thought i'd add to what was mentioned about which car has the better audio.

one thing that was failed to be mentioned was how a car should sound when your inside the car. the car should not sound the same on the inside as it does on the outside.

how many of you get in your car, close the door, crank it up, realize you need water, get out of your car to put water in it, and hear the car sound as it did when you got in and out of it?

if any body says you do then you've lost it. the car shouldn't sound as it does on the outside as it does on the inside.

so it would seem that GT5 is better at authentically portraying how the car should sound when your in or out of the car so the audio is better on GT5!

Actually in Forza 4 the sound changes if you are in cockpit mode or on the outside. It changes for every camera angle.

so is F4 sound over done?

look. i trust you to tell me the truth. i've already talked to M5 and i trust him to, but to you which game has the better audio realism for the cars?

Well I've never played GT5 so I can't really comment too much regarding it but from the video up above the Forza 4 sounds like it's higher quality sounding and I'm not sure if Forza 4 sound is over done or not seeing as i've only driven low end cars in real life and none of them are in Forza 4.

wheres CGI when you need him? i'm sure he'll say what you, me, and Seece said a few pages back, but i'm also sure he'd be able to tell better then anyone considering he likely plays both. user warrior96's little brother says Forza4 sucks but he's never played a sim racer a day in his life lol.

well i'm done with this topic. i'll see you in something else not F4 v G5.



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ethomaz on 22 October 2011

OMG A lot of bull here... @Michael-5, @selnor and @Nsanity... you need to play GT5 (again).

Anyway... 2011 Best Racing Game by Golden Joystick .



Aldro on 22 October 2011
ethomaz said:
OMG A lot of bull here... @Michael-5, @selnor and @Nsanity... you need to play GT5 (again).

Anyway... 2011 Best Racing Game by Golden Joystick .

Well deserved and rightfully so ^^



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freebs2 on 22 October 2011

The enviroment and the lights are made better in Forza, the car models look about the same from the outside, from the inside GT5 models are more detailed.



selnor on 22 October 2011
Aldro said:
ethomaz said:
OMG A lot of bull here... @Michael-5, @selnor and @Nsanity... you need to play GT5 (again).

Anyway... 2011 Best Racing Game by Golden Joystick .

Well deserved and rightfully so ^^

@ Ethomaz : I was completel referring to Digital Foundries tech analysis of GT5 2.0. The latest version. Actual figures and facts. Not opinion related in terms of performances and resource saving for both games.

@ Golden Joystick awards. 

GT5 ad it easy. Nieter F1 2011 or Forza Motorsport 4 were entered as they came out to late. Ironically it shoul be called first half of 2011  Golden Joysticck awards. 

Forza 4 will be included in next years. 

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/37071/Nominees_Announced_For_2011_Golden_Joystick_Awards.php

Review wise Forza 4 easily wins this year. Including GamesMaster who do the Golden awards. They gave Forza 4 a better simulation score.



ethomaz on 22 October 2011
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
OMG A lot of bull here... @Michael-5, @selnor and @Nsanity... you need to play GT5 (again).

Anyway... 2011 Best Racing Game by Golden Joystick .


Forza 4 wasnt included.  So I can see why they came to that conclusion.

 

oh.. sorry... forgot...

And? GT5 should won even with Forza 4... the award is from vote of readers.



o_O.Q on 22 October 2011



ZaneWane on 22 October 2011
ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
OMG A lot of bull here... @Michael-5, @selnor and @Nsanity... you need to play GT5 (again).

Anyway... 2011 Best Racing Game by Golden Joystick .


Forza 4 wasnt included.  So I can see why they came to that conclusion.

 

oh.. sorry... forgot...

And? GT5 should won even with Forza 4... the award is from vote of readers.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/gran-turismo-5 

and http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/forza-motorsport-4