Yea I was mistaken but, barely any console games run at a native 1080p.Just because the back of the game case says 1080p doesnt mean its 1080p.The console game that runs perfectly 1080p is WipeoutHD its runs perfectly at 1080p.Other than that I havent seen any other console game run at 1080p.

So compare inFAMOUS 30FPS 720pvs WipeoutHD 60FPS 1080p.

Hmmm it depends on what you consider true 1080p. AFAIK, the vertical resolution is 1080 px, but the horizontal resolution changes dynamically depending on the action, trying to maintain 60 fps. I think it can be "as low" as 1280 px.

Two separate points. Hence I wrote "also."

Read the example. Those rims spin at about 5-10 rotations per second, so a fifth rotation is just about 30FPS, thats why it lookslike it's spinning bacwards.

That's exactly the situation, but people don't understand that.

That's a crude way to explain it, but it's kind of true, and this is why people think hey can see 60FPS. At 30FPS, for a digital signal (say progressive scan - p), humans can still detect the change in screens. At 60FPS humans can't see that ransition. However at 60FPS, humans will only see half the frames in a given second.

People should look into my example of a car rim on te highway. When a car is accelerating, you first see it move clockwise (if you are to the right of the car), then it starts to skip, then it starts to go backward slowly, then it skips again, then it goes backward really fast. Where it goes backward slowly is about 30FPS because every 30th of a second, the next spoke is just behind the prior one a 30th of a second ago. There is a lot more to this, but I want people to understand that basic point.

60FPS is smoother then 30FPS, but not beause we can see at 30FPS, but because we see the transition of screen (when it's not a factor of 30, and under 60FPS), the drop in FPS, and screen tearing.

You're making the mistake that we perceive visual information in frames. We do not.

The human eye perceives visuals continuously, and the "smoothness" of movement depends on the focal point, light, movement speed, etc. It's not comparable with frames per second at all. Any claim of "the human eye sees x fps" is a bullshit claim. We can easily spot the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps if the source material has enough movement. We cannot see the difference between 300 fps and 600 fps because we can't process visual information that fast.

Maybe you should read up on this article, it's quite interesting.

It seems that at that class, your mind wasn't at what it had to be. You have a completely wrong idea of how our eyes work.

But we do see in frames, this I know for certain. Look at a humming bird flap it's wings, when it flaps in with a frequency that is a multiple of your vision, the bird will look like it's not moving at all, and it's wings are just floating. Have you never seen this before? Or the car rim rotating backwards on the highway on a forward moving car?

Got an 80% in that course. Even ha time to draw pictures on the exam.

This is how things work, accept it.

I read that article, and do not disagree with any of it. However it does not explain something called "The Wagon Wheel Effect." In real life. Information is constantly streamed into our eyes, but out brains translate the data we see very similar to a digital camera.

How light works is that light is both a photon and a wave. Brighter images have a higher count of photons hitting that spot, while dark objects have significantly less photons hitting that source. Fancy confusing stuff aside, a digital camera works by counting the number of photons in a given pixel and assigning that pixel a certain value for light intensity and colour. These pixels are refreshed every x seconds,and this is where the term FPS comes from.

Your retina, like a camera, consistently pick up photons for every cone/rode present. I believe there are million o rods present, but I forget the actual count. Anyway. photons are counted per pixel (cones and rods), and your brain taks this data and produces an image. In fact this data actually comes in upside down and our brains correct this, but that's besides the point.

Your brain takes that steady stream of info, and just like a camera produces a series of frames. Under different lighting conditions, we see different FPS because our brain demands out eyes give objects more/less time for exposure of each frame.

Anyway, simple enough? Good job, you know something about eyes, but our minds obtain vide infrmation just like a digital camera. This is why objects, like a planes propeller sometimes look like they rotate backwards. It's just a trick of the mind, a limitation due to our FPS vision.