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libellule said:

now they have to fight the DVD king itself


 Nah, there won't be any fight for the crown. It will be a succession. Bloodless. 



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This is about as surprising as babies being born with legs to me...

Edit: Damnit! I forgot! The PS3 and BluRay are doomed... 



Tja its over Rest in Peace HD-DVD. This stupid format war had to end anyway. I hope Toshiba and MS don't drag it on. The sooner all movies are available in ONE format the more people will buy it and perhaps with high enough numbers prices will come down to a reasonable level.



vux984 said:

People keep going on and on about one format being better and bla bla but I totally disagree. If from the outset there had been just Blu Ray then uptake till now would have been even less. Stand alone players would have cost over $500. Much less people would have bought stand alone players than they would have now.

Lets see, the cassette tape, compact disc, and DVD didn't suffer a format war, and prices of players dropped fast, and uptake was phenomenal for each... because the formats had compelling advantages.

cassettes were compact, portable and recordable. CDs were compact portable didn't deteriote like tapes, produced better sound, and had features like direct track selection (no "rewinding or fast forwarding")

DVDs, brought all the advantages of CDs to movies, and the picture quality jump was substantial.

What does blu-ray / hddvd bring? Aside from a format war and little boost to PQ?

People were far more willing to gamble on the VCR format war because

a) there was no legacy technology meeting their needs. If you wanted to get in on the new phenomena of recording from TV and/or renting movies, you had to buy in. This was a huge feature. Whats the feature of hidef? moderately better picture quality. its no comparison.

b) everyone benefitted from the purchase. if you owned a TV, a VCR was a luxury that improved your enjoyment of it, and practically EVERYONE owned a TV. The market for a VCR was everyone. The market for a hidef player... much much smaller. most households don't own a hidef TV yet. So what do they need a hidef player for?

Sitting out the blueray/hddvd format war is easy by comparison. A decent DVD player with a good upscaler is under $100, and the only thing we gain by buying in is moderately better PQ... that most TVs in most homes still can't actually display.

So we can easily afford to wait on this one. For half of us there is no point until we get new TVs, and for the other half the "sacrifice" is pretty minor... so only the early adopters and enthusiasts are jumping on board. The rest of us will wait unti the format war is settled or hybrid players become standard, and prices come down to that of DVDs.

 


I agree with the points in your posts.

Right now our TV is 30", free standing on top of a cupboard.  No room for a giant TV.  And all four of us require glasses/contacts.  Which in the evening, while relaxing in front of the TV, usually are not worn.  (ie not terrible vision, just not 20/20).

So, what does a somewhat better picture do for us?  Not much.  When the TV dies, it will get replaced with HD, I'm sure, since that will be near the price of the current one.  Eventually, some time after that, we'll get the Blu-Ray player.  Perhaps not a PS3, but a cheaper one just to watch new movies.  But I think it will be some time before DVDs are not made, and only Blu-Ray ones are.

As far as Warner taking or not taking money, the only quote I want to hear was whether a contract was signed between them and the Blu-Ray association.  If so, as others have pointed out, money would not be exchanged, but concessions on royalities could / probably would be.  As for Blu-Ray raising the royalty as soon as they control the market, the movie studios that went the BR way would have to be royal idiots to not get fixed rates for X years.

While I don't believe it will happen this way, it would truly be ironic, if with non-PS3 BR players dropping in price lower that PS3, that the sales of PS3 went down!  That is,  where enough were buying PS3 as a cheap BR player, and that incentive went away.  Not going to happen, IMO, but be funny as hell if it did.  

(Head of the Sony division that gets the royality revenue of BR.  "Wow, my bonus is going to be huge!"    Head of gaming: Glares!)

 



Torturing the numbers.  Hear them scream.