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Marks said:
amp316 said:
Marks said:
amp316 said:
Marks said:
A new James Bond, but replace Daniel Craig with somebody else like maybe Clive Owen or Russell Crowe, and make it...ya know...good, like the 90's Pierce Brosnan ones.

I hate to break it to you but besides for GoldenEye, all of the Brosnan movies are bad (for Bond movies).


No way dude Tomorrow Never dies was legit, World is not Enough is good, Die Another Day was average but entertaining. I enjoy the old ones (Moore/Connery) but I don't have nostalgia for them since they're way before my time. 

Craig is a joke though, its not even Bond anymore. Casino Royale was 2 hours of poker, 5 minutes of action; Quantum was a little better but still a joke. 

Tomorrow Never Dies seemed to be the sequel to the videogame GoldenEye, not the movie.  That said, it's much better than the next two.  The World Is Not Enough is by far the worst Bond movie ever.  Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist???  There were interesting villians that were horribly misused and the only well done scene was the pre-credits teaser.  Did I mention the scene where there were helicopters with saws hanging from them cutting Zukovsky's caviar factory in half?  *eyeroll*  Die Another Day was decent for the first half and then turned into Bond surfing down the side of a melting glacier, an invisible car, a villian with a powerglove, and some of the worst puns in the series ( I won't list them).

I personally think that Craig is a better Bond than Roger Moore Lite (Pierce Brosnan), but you're entitled to your opinion on that.  Your comment about Casino Royale being 2 hours poker and 5 minutes of action though, is laughable.  It begins with an awesome sequence showing how he becomes a 00 and then after the credits is an awesome chase scene on a construction site that goes on for much longer than five minutes.  These are not the only action scenes in the movie and shows why your 5 minutes of action comment is ridiculous.  The movie does have things like card playing, conversations, and a plot so I could see how a fan of Die Another Day wouldn't like it.  Quantum had action from nearly beginning to the end and the only problem I had with it was the shaky camera work which is all the rage now.   
 


Yeah I guess we just differ on the type of Bond we like. I love the ridiculous gadgets, action, car chases, crazy villians, etc. and couldn't really care less about the plot. 

Casino Royale was just brutal though. Yeah it starts off well with the Construction site scene but its just downhill from there. There 1 car scene which [no exaggeration] lasts about 10 seconds before he flips his car, there isn't a single gadget in the movie, no Q, no bits of humour like in all the other Bond movies (i love the bickering between Q and Bond whenever he wrecks his car or stuff like that). Casino Royale just has nothing I love about all the other Bond movies.

Craig is by far the worst Bond IMO, he even makes Timothy Dalton look good by comparison. 

But yeah I do agree The World Is Not Enough was pretty average now that I think about it. I did like Die Another Day though. 

It's not that I don't like the cool gadgets, crazy villains, and all of that.  My favorite Bond movie is Goldfinger and that has all of that in spades.  It also has a genious plot by a crazy villian which is something that I unforutunately  think that has lacked since the Roger Moore days.  A media mogul trying to control the news or a guy buying the rights to Bolivia's water supply isn't nearly as exciting as say the villian hijacking two nuclear missiles and extorting the governments of the world for money or a megalomamiac breaking into Fort Knox in order to set off a "dirty bomb" in order to contaminate the gold in order to make his own worth a lot more money.  Heck, even Max Zorin's plot in A View To A Kill to flood Silicon Valley in order to corner the world's market on microchips was a better villianous scheme than anything since.  But alas...

It might not technically be a car chase scene, but Casino Royale had a great action sequence in the airport where a jet was going to be blown up that was much longer than 10 seconds.  I do agree that the latest two films do need more humor, but I do understand why they held back on that after the Brosnan one liner fests (this was also done with Dalton after Moore).  It's to keep the series fresh.  If they did the same thing always, the series would get boring.  Truth be told, I think that most of the best Bond movies combine elements of seriousness and humor.  This is why Connery was the best Bond.  You didn't know whether he was going to crack a one liner or stick a speargun into someone's eyeball.

So in the end, I guess that I think that I prefer Craig over Brosnan because I think that he is better at being a bad ass than Brosnan is at being silly.

I should start writing threads on these movies.  :p 



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The Star Wars prequels George should have made.

The ones following Vader around as he hunts down and destroys the Jedi.


I was hoping that this is what Revenge of the Sith would have been.  That being said, I thought that it was a million times better than the other two of the prequel movies combined.



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amp316 said:
Marks said:
amp316 said:
Marks said:
amp316 said:
Marks said:
A new James Bond, but replace Daniel Craig with somebody else like maybe Clive Owen or Russell Crowe, and make it...ya know...good, like the 90's Pierce Brosnan ones.

I hate to break it to you but besides for GoldenEye, all of the Brosnan movies are bad (for Bond movies).


No way dude Tomorrow Never dies was legit, World is not Enough is good, Die Another Day was average but entertaining. I enjoy the old ones (Moore/Connery) but I don't have nostalgia for them since they're way before my time. 

Craig is a joke though, its not even Bond anymore. Casino Royale was 2 hours of poker, 5 minutes of action; Quantum was a little better but still a joke. 

Tomorrow Never Dies seemed to be the sequel to the videogame GoldenEye, not the movie.  That said, it's much better than the next two.  The World Is Not Enough is by far the worst Bond movie ever.  Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist???  There were interesting villians that were horribly misused and the only well done scene was the pre-credits teaser.  Did I mention the scene where there were helicopters with saws hanging from them cutting Zukovsky's caviar factory in half?  *eyeroll*  Die Another Day was decent for the first half and then turned into Bond surfing down the side of a melting glacier, an invisible car, a villian with a powerglove, and some of the worst puns in the series ( I won't list them).

I personally think that Craig is a better Bond than Roger Moore Lite (Pierce Brosnan), but you're entitled to your opinion on that.  Your comment about Casino Royale being 2 hours poker and 5 minutes of action though, is laughable.  It begins with an awesome sequence showing how he becomes a 00 and then after the credits is an awesome chase scene on a construction site that goes on for much longer than five minutes.  These are not the only action scenes in the movie and shows why your 5 minutes of action comment is ridiculous.  The movie does have things like card playing, conversations, and a plot so I could see how a fan of Die Another Day wouldn't like it.  Quantum had action from nearly beginning to the end and the only problem I had with it was the shaky camera work which is all the rage now.   
 


Yeah I guess we just differ on the type of Bond we like. I love the ridiculous gadgets, action, car chases, crazy villians, etc. and couldn't really care less about the plot. 

Casino Royale was just brutal though. Yeah it starts off well with the Construction site scene but its just downhill from there. There 1 car scene which [no exaggeration] lasts about 10 seconds before he flips his car, there isn't a single gadget in the movie, no Q, no bits of humour like in all the other Bond movies (i love the bickering between Q and Bond whenever he wrecks his car or stuff like that). Casino Royale just has nothing I love about all the other Bond movies.

Craig is by far the worst Bond IMO, he even makes Timothy Dalton look good by comparison. 

But yeah I do agree The World Is Not Enough was pretty average now that I think about it. I did like Die Another Day though. 

It's not that I don't like the cool gadgets, crazy villains, and all of that.  My favorite Bond movie is Goldfinger and that has all of that in spades.  It also has a genious plot by a crazy villian which is something that I unforutunately  think that has lacked since the Roger Moore days.  A media mogul trying to control the news or a guy buying the rights to Bolivia's water supply isn't nearly as exciting as say the villian hijacking two nuclear missiles and extorting the governments of the world for money or a megalomamiac breaking into Fort Knox in order to set off a "dirty bomb" in order to contaminate the gold in order to make his own worth a lot more money.  Heck, even Max Zorin's plot in A View To A Kill to flood Silicon Valley in order to corner the world's market on microchips was a better villianous scheme than anything since.  But alas...

It might not technically be a car chase scene, but Casino Royale had a great action sequence in the airport where a jet was going to be blown up that was much longer than 10 seconds.  I do agree that the latest two films do need more humor, but I do understand why they held back on that after the Brosnan one liner fests (this was also done with Dalton after Moore).  It's to keep the series fresh.  If they did the same thing always, the series would get boring.  Truth be told, I think that most of the best Bond movies combine elements of seriousness and humor.  This is why Connery was the best Bond.  You didn't know whether he was going to crack a one liner or stick a speargun into someone's eyeball.

So in the end, I guess that I think that I prefer Craig over Brosnan because I think that he is better at being a bad ass than Brosnan is at being silly.

I should start writing threads on these movies.  :p 


You do make some good points there. And I love Goldfinger too by the way. 

I can't really remember Casino Royale that well, I saw it in theatres and I think once on DVD. I kind of want to watch it again to see if my opinion of it has changed, but my memory of it is just so bad that I can't bring myself to watch it again. 

But I'll concede that Craig has kept the series fresh. It seems way more serious than any previous movie (at least compared to the Brosnan era). Bond (as Craig) seems to be full of hate and out for revenge or something, its not just about stopping a nuclear bomb and saving the world anymore. 

And I'm with you on Connery being one of the best Bonds. I didn't like Dr. No (too much plot for me, not enough action), but the rest are great. 



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