Well they did say that the E3 demo was running on a GTX 480 i7 and 6GB RAM and that looked amazing but they consider that pretty a pretty modest system and they are still adding new effects.

every opnion helps ; )

I see that 2 people think I am an idiot lol

I like to wait and buy cheap. You've waited, sure, but you waited so long that the next gen is about to begin. I wasn't suggesting that you wait until the new stuff comes and then wait for newer stuff forever. But you've gotten by without a PS3 this long and the Wii U is coming next year and shortly after that will be the PS4 and the next Xbox. There's nothing wrong with getting a  PS3 now, I'm sure you'll have fun with it, but you might regret it when the Wii U hits shelves and everything gets discounted. As for the graphics card. My philosophy is to buy the best you can afford and use it until it can't run anything. If you graphics card can run new games well enough to play smoothly then I think it's smart to stick with what you have until you can't afford NOT to upgrade.

The origonal plan was to wait until the next gen of cards came out but with the bros issues and the delays to the next year of the next series of GPUs now seems like a fine time to buy a new card, I don't see anything being more demanding than BF3 coming for at least another year possibly until PS4 and next box are out and from what I have played of the BF3 Beta on my 5770 where I can play it on high (-motion blur) with only a few dips below 30, and the full version is supposed to be better optomised (and have some extra effects added to ultra) and the Metro Last light demo looking as awsome as it does running on a GTX 480 which a 560 ti is roughly equivelent to a GTX 560 ti now seems like a good decision. And as you say with the Wii U coming and PS4 and Next box coming soon after seccond hand PS3s are likely to come down in price over the next year. And if I get the card now I get my little bros eternal love and affection... Well for a month until they forget all about it just like they did when I gave them their current card lol, tho considering that soon terned to a lemon mybe that's all I deserved... lol

with your bother in mind, i guess it wont be a bad idea to play console multiplayer/co-op games with him, and enjoy exclusives too.

Considering you passion for PC game, I'd go with the better gfx card over the PS3.

In the end it all depends on how badly you want the PS3 exclusives versus how much you value the up coming PC game that will strain your card.

Get a ps3, your bros will love you even more!

ok last chance to sway me ether way, I am leaning towards a new GPU...

I would go with a PS3 if I were you...the graphics card you want will probably drop in price rather soon.

even if it did I wouldn't get them both as PS3 games are expensive