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huaxiong90 said:

Tbh, I have yet to find anything that accurately describes what I saw, and what can be used as a means of understanding exorcisms.

My relative who was exorcised was not experiencing any health issues, and she was a devout Muslim until just the two weeks before the exorcism, after a meeting with some (eccentric) people. She wasn't acting weird or showing signs of illness, she just halted her religious activities altogether. There's too much that happened during the exorcism, but the weirdest part was this:

She apparently came to her senses and got a grip after a while of struggling so as not to hear the quranic verses (no pats were used yet, and during this time she even threw punches until her arms were firmly pinned by her husband). Anyways, she was describing what she felt throughout the whole ordeal (she was unable to speak, and felt as if someone had her throat clenched, amongst many other disturbing things). So the sheikh then gives her the Quran and asks her to recite the verse she spoke of while being exorcised. Then, just like that, her facial expression changes into something I have never seen before, and she refuses to even touch the Koran. And the exorcism went on.

I have seen silly stuff on TV and the sort, but never...and I mean NEVER...have I witnessed something so mind boggling in my whole life. And when it all ended, the next day she was back into her religious duties, and eventually made a full recovery to devoutness.

I don't understand what exactly made you people think she was 'possesed'. Halting religious activities? Just seems like you guys were trying to force your religion on her. In Europe you'd be jailed for that 'exorcism'.



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PullusPardus said:

its just arabic words , i'll clear out their english equivelants

Jinney (or Genie like aladdin ) / Jinn  = demon/ Demons

Shaitan/ Shiateen = devil / Devils

Eblis = Lucifer

Malak / Malika = Angel / Angels

jibrael  = Gabriel

Allah = God

so they're just different names of the same  , though what i find very funny is when people say , muslims worship Allah and we worship God

Question: what is the difference between 'demon' and 'devil'? I typically heart them used as synonymes.



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"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

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viewtiful_jon said:
1 Muslim down but there is still a long way to go til the world is safe again.

Don't know if you were trying to be funny or serious, but you definately failed at the former.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:

I don't understand what exactly made you people think she was 'possesed'. Halting religious activities? Just seems like you guys were trying to force your religion on her. In Europe you'd be jailed for that 'exorcism'.

Do you really think I'd do that to my aunt? Come on, now. It was with her consent that the exorcism was done.

She was always a religious person until that one day. And there was no talk of religion that day either. And she slowly but surely returned to her religious activities after the day of the exorcism.

There is just simply no logical or scientific explanation for that day...and I tried my hardest to find it.



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huaxiong90 said:
viewtiful_jon said:
1 Muslim down but there is still a long way to go til the world is safe again.

Oh, geez, I didn't know my presence was threatening to the many Western expatriates that live near me.

Seriously, bigots like you disgust me. It's you people who are the real threat to the world.


I am 100% Atheist, and i am giving you a virtual high five! Very good post sir, completely agree :)



obviously you added "muslim" in the title for a reason...



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huaxiong90 said:
sapphi_snake said:

I don't understand what exactly made you people think she was 'possesed'. Halting religious activities? Just seems like you guys were trying to force your religion on her. In Europe you'd be jailed for that 'exorcism'.

Do you really think I'd do that to my aunt? Come on, now. It was with her consent that the exorcism was done.

She was always a religious person until that one day. And there was no talk of religion that day either. And she slowly but surely returned to her religious activities after the day of the exorcism.

There is just simply no logical or scientific explanation for that day...and I tried my hardest to find it.


First of all, I am sorry for your relative and I hope she is better now. Salamt. Second of all, I haven't read enough about her story and even then, I am no psychiatrist to judge. However, there ARE scientific explanations for her case. Unusual thoughts, disturbed behaviors, disorganized speech, paranoia,verbal aggression, hearing voices etc are all symptoms of brief psychotic disorder (which is basically schizophrenia that lasts only for one month or less and disappears completely eventually and the person goes on living normally for the rest of their lives).

Third of all, I question.. where Muslims get these fixed beliefs about possessions when there is nothing From Quran or Muhammed himself about Exorcism. Are there stories from the Khulafa Al rashdeen history in which they exorcise people? demons that take over humans and control them? I haven't read any! We have lots of 1400 years old stories about several minor issues and all sorts of Hadeeth but NON that disccussed demons taking control of bodies? how come?

Edit: I know I am not exactly the believer and I forgot everything the Quran said about the Jin honestly but I'll keep it in mind next time I re-explore religions.



So her family recognized her mental state was in trouble yet she remained out of a hospital in custody of her child? Sounds like the family failed that child.

About 10yrs ago my wife's brother was acting really crazy... after two days we put him into a mental hospital. He was schizophrenic and took 8mos of therapy and drugs for him to stabilize. He still isn't 100%, but he's safe and functional.

Btw, I hate how the OP puts so much on the religion... obviously this has nothing to do with that.



padib said:
PullusPardus said:

disgusting, this is very close to me personally,  that i actually knew people like that when i was younger, from saudia arabia who cover faces like that of any picture, because they think satan hides in there, they also refuse to watch tv , and refuse to buy their kid any toys that have a human head on it.

it still puzzles me the way people like that think, even though i was a kid, i still thought they're nutcases, and i sneakily let their poor child play with my consoles back then, the poor kid compared to me at the same age, felt like he was living in a cave (because basically it is), not knowing anything about the world, when i talked to him, he was like a puppy, very easy to manipulate, doesn't know anything about anything, i now wonder what kind of a psychopath that kid turned out to be, from all that shit he went through i can imagine him blowing himself up or getting killed like that child from the article.

even though i had a very rough childhood with no good memories with my family, i'm very grateful i wasn't in the same place as that kid.

You're confusing psychosis with religious fanaticism. They play on each other, but the problem this lady had was psychosis that led her to murder her daughter. What those people you know personally suffer from is religious fanaticism, it can be good (enlightened) or it can be bad (ignorant). Fanaticism in and of itself, imho, is not a bad thing.

No, religious fanaticism is inherently bad, and causes nothing but evil.



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"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)