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So I was bored today () And I was thinking... I wonder how the scores given to games by gamrReview stack up against the User Scores (scores given by those in gamrConnect) of the same games? And so I clicked on Excel and began my journey...

First we'll look at games that have a higher gamrReview Score and a lower User Score:

Game (System) gamrReview Score User Score Difference
Brink (X360) 82 57 -25
Disgaea 2: Dark Hero Days (PSP) 88 72 -16
Hustle Kings (PSN) 85 70 -15
Noby Noby Boy (PSN) 77 62 -15
GRID (X360) 93 80 -13
Bulletstorm (PC) 86 73 -13
The Godfather II (PS3) 82 69 -13
GRID (PS3) 93 81 -12
Unreal Tournament III (PC) 89 77 -12
Scribblenauts (DS) 88 76 -12
Trash Panic (PSN) 72 60 -12
Crysis 2 (X360) 94 83 -11
Valkyria Chronicles II (PSP) 93 82 -11
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (DS) 92 81 -11
Street Fighter IV (X360) 91 80 -11
MadWorld (Wii) 87 76 -11
Unreal Tournament III (PS3) 87 76 -11
Need for Speed: Shift (X360) 86 75 -11
World of Goo (PC) 95 85 -10
Final Fantasy XIII (X360) 90 80 -10
Buzz! Quiz TV (PS3) 87 77 -10
Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution (PS3) 87 77 -10
Art Style: Orbient (WW) 87 77 -10
Prinny: Can I Really Be the Hero? (PSP) 84 74 -10
Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars (DS) 93 84 -9
Mega Man 9 (WW) 92 83 -9
Street Fighter IV (PS3) 91 82 -9
Bayonetta (X360) 91 82 -9
Final Fantasy XIII (PS3) 90 81 -9
PixelJunk Eden (PSN) 87 78 -9
Need For Speed: Shift (PS3) 86 77 -9
Shaun White Snowboarding: Road Trip (Wii) 85 76 -9
Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands (X360) 84 75 -9
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time (DS) 79 70 -9

Interesting stuff For sure...

Now let's look at games where gamrReview gave a lower score while User Revews gave a higher score:

Game (System) gamrReview Score User Score Difference
Cross Edge (PS3) 38 75 +37
Duke Nukem Forever (X360) 37 71 +34
Last Rebellion (PS3) 42 75 +33
Duke Nukem Forever (PC) 37 66 +29
Super Mario All-Stars: Limited Edition (Wii) 55 80 +25
PilotWings Resort (3DS) 61 82 +21
Lost: Via Dominus (PS3) 35 56 +21
MotorStorm: Apocalypse (PS3) 68 88 +20
Fable II Pub Games (XBL) 30 49 +19
Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2 (PS3) 64 82 +18
Arc Rise Fantasia (Wii) 60 78 +18
Hyperdimension Neptunia (PS3) 64 81 +17
Resident Evil: The Mercinaries 3D (3DS) 63 80 +17
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (PS3) 62 78 +16
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (X360) 62 78 +16
Assassin's Creed: Bloodlines (PSP) 54 70 +16
Sonic Colors (Wii) 72 86 +14
Conduit 2 (Wii) 68 82 +14
Dead Rising 2 (X360) 68 81 +13
Armored Core: For Answer (PS3) 68 81 +13
White Knight Chronicles: International Edition (PS3) 62 75 +13
God Hand (PS2) 78 90 +12
Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies (DS) 77 89 +12
Singularity (X360) 77 89 +12
Trauma Team (Wii) 73 85 +12
God of War: Chains of Olympus (PSP) 79 90 +11
Yakuza 4 (PS3) 78 89 +11
Disney Epic Mickey (Wii) 73 84 +11
NBA Jam (Wii) 70 81 +11
God of War: Ghost of Sparta (PSP) 84 94 +10
Fallout: New Vegas (X360) 77 87 +10
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey (DS) 75 85 +10
Dead Rising 2 (PS3) 68 78 +10
Lock's Quest (DS) 65 75 +10
SOCOM 4: US Navy SEALs (PS3) 62 72 +10
Kinect Adventures! (X360) 62 72 +10

Just thought it'd be interesting to discuss what you guys think about these numbers and what your opinions are on this subject. ^_^



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trasharmdsister12 said:
*Opens Thread*
*Sees X360 Game as Maximum Difference*

:-| VGCHARTZ IS TEH BIAS 4 Th3 THREE-SIX....

*Banned by Machina*

Okay Machina, you can close this thread now! Mission Accomplished. ^_^

Anywho... I agree with the rest of the users that gamrReview was too harsh on Sonic Colors and Epic Mickey... I loved those two games.

I also agree that gamrConnect was too leniant on MadWorld.

Other than that (and besides all those games I haven't played), looks good!



You can imagine that the user score being lower is because of hating, but then you have to assume the haters merely counterbalance the fanboys who'll give their game of choice a 9.5+ without blinking

Interesting stuff. Part of what i saw out of that whole "Schick Adgate" controversy was that VGC Reviewers testified to being editorial pressure to lower their scores instead of raise them, indicating that we may have a relativley noncritical staff that's more easygoing about games even perhaps than would be professionally optimal (not that i'm trying to impugn anyone. I tend to overscore everything too, since my system is to start from a 9/10, then subtract what was wrong with the game, or add in the cases of games that really go above and beyond, to 10 which i consider timelessness)

 

Games that were user-rated higher seems to be almost exclusively games that relied heavily on the "fun factor" but had technical shortcomings, like how featureless the Mario All Star Collection was, or REMercenaries3D and its idiotic save system, but what (according to d21lewis) was a good game otherwise, or Epic Mickey with its jank camera but being, well, Epic Mickey



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Before entering I was expecting the user scores to be generally higher than the critic score.

But then I saw the Brink score where users seem to have had a bad time online (and reviewers don't do the best job judging multiplayer). Another odd score I'd say is Crysis 2 at 94.



While there are some from both categories where I might agree with the gamrReview score, there are some where I agree with the users' scores. A couple of instances, though, stand out, like the user scores for Last Rebellion, which I thought was probably a 50/100 at best. You know a game is bad when the president of the company that made apologizes for making it!



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spurgeonryan said:
I think that our reviewers on this site just do things differently than others on other sites and even users on this site and others. It also does not seem that our reviewers are rushed into getting a game done. I am not sure what they do in other sites, but I know a few often do rush jobs. As for user reviews, I would have given the gex games for 64 at least a B. But mags like EGM gave it closer to a 5-7. Either way I like the reviews here! Good job torillian, machina, O-D-C, The kitchen Sink, Etc....Smeags?

Nope! I'm not a reviewer for gamrConnect, only a Features Writer. :P

But I'll take your thanks anyways.

Seriously though, this whole thread was just taking numbers and comparing them... just something to spark some discussion. I agree that the gamrReview staff does a great job and is definitely one of the best new features of VGChartz.



spurgeonryan said:


Maybe they should send you some free games so that you can write some reviews! :)

I would never say no to free games.



Talk about too much free time
Nah, jk, great thread!



LOST woot woot!

Them PS3 JRPGs...



You must have been quite bored...I hate excel, nice job nonetheless.