lestatdark said:
Player1x3 said:
lestatdark said:
Player1x3 said:
lestatdark said:
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Jay520 said: Animals are disgusting IMO |
They are not! In a way, slavery also still exists in the world today! Horses and other animals are used as slaves, and I believe that's a form of animal testing. They're testing these animals will, and one day these animals are going to flip out on mankind. It's really sad seeing a horse pull a huge wagon with some sick idiot whipping him with a steel rod, and sometimes even stabbing them with those star things on the ends of their boots.
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Animals are beings of lower biological order, their life isnt as important as a human life. Would you rather have all the medical drugs tested on humans and have them dead sickened?
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Lower biological order? In whose's scale, yours?
Because if you're talking in strict biological terms, humans are pretty low on the biological scale. We're not macro-producers nor are we on the top of any kind of food chain (as there are animals that hunt humans for food). If you're talking about rational order, then that has nothing to do with any kind of biological measure.
Also, funny thing regarding humans, we're one of the few species in the biological kingdom that has no biological function for any other species. Kinda like locusts but able to do 2+2 in our brains.
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Intelligence + dominance+ power+ reason + compassion + advancement, top on food chain (yes, humans can hunt down and kill any animal of any species they want) = humans are most valueable living beings on planet, and are thus superior to animals.
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Human arrogance at it's best.
I am just telling it how it is. Maybe your PETA pals wouldnt agree, but its in our right to be arrogant. We are the ''masters'' of this planet, and we dominate it, so we are right to be arrogant when we are that much more dominant than any other creatures on this planet.
Top of the food chain? What's your definition of food chain? Because for an animal to be at the top of the food chain, it can't have any natural predator. Like Killer Whales are the top predator of the oceans. You're confusing sports hunt with food hunting, which are two different concepts.
Humans hunt killers whales too, dont they? Maybe not for food, but for other things. The thing is, maybe we dont hunt all the animals for food, but we do hunt most of animal species for other materials.
As for intelligence that's the only point in which humans are superior to any other animal species, but why would you add compassion to it? Humans are amongst the least compassionate animal species in the planet. It's scientifically proven that communities of mammals suchs as Dolphins and Canines, inter and intra-species compassion is much higher than in any other animal.
Humans are the only species that are actually compationate and actually care about species other than their own. God knows how many human work force, resources and money goes into helping all kinds of animals in the world. Not to mention harming animals is punishable by law. No other species cares so much about the others as humans do.
Again, humans are not the most valuable living being on the planet. Humanity and the entire human species could dissapear from the face of the earth in a instant and the earth and every other species would continue on living.
Maybe valueable is a wrong word. I would say plants are most valueable, as they give life to all other living beings on planet. Fair enough. But humans are most likely to survive any kind of apocaliptic scenario than any other species thanks to our superior inteligence and logistics
If anything, the most valuable species in the planet are a throw down between Cyanobacteria and the innumerous species that compose Zooplancton and Fitoplancton, the true macroproducers of the world. If they were to dissapear, all life on earth would die in a matter of weeks, maybe one or two months, as nutrients in the ground would cease to renew, plants would wither and die and animals would follow suit.
Don't place humanity in a pedestal. We're the most intelligent species that's true (and we missuse the capacities that we have so much, that I doubt that we're even that intelligent) but other than that we contribute almost nothing to the earth per se.
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PETA pals? Pahahahahahahaha, oh man, thanks for the laugh 

I hate PETA with a passion. I'm no pro-animal apologist nor "Free all the animals" as your OP PS3 said, go back and read my early replies on this thread. i just hate this kind of arrogant thinking "We rule this planet and every other animal is below us".
We DO rule this planet. How can you even try to argue otherwise? Which other species is as dominant and has a higher say so than humans in this planet.? We can do whatever we want, to whomever we want. Weather is that good or rational for humans is another story, but it does demostrate our power in this planet. AS for animals below us, that really depends on what kind of aspects are you looking at. Humans are superior in most of them, but not all.
Humans are compassionate? Yeah, indeed they are when they want to. Want to measure the amount of compassion versus violence in the entire human history? Because there's a clear winner there, and it's not the one that starts with a C. Humans are the only species that kill their own kind for fun, humans alone are responsible for the extinction of thousands of species that range from mammal, plant life and even some cases in the Monera realm, not only in centuries past but also recently. There has been a distinctive push towards saving the large number of endangered species that we have in the past years, but go do a bit of research to learn just how "effective" it has been. We have reduced entire species to a point we're it's extremely hard to have a viable population sample to breed in large enough numbers to sustain themselves in the future without any kind of assistance. We basically have limited species such as the pandas, siberian tigers or the iberian lynx to only survive in specially created reserves that must be mantained and monitored constantly.
Actually, you would be quite suprised. I blame the media for the image most people have in this world. All the news broadcast, newspapers, magazines, radio messages all of them mostly (almost exclusevly) are broadcsting tragic, sad and dangerous events in the world, but almost never the good. They are trying (and doing a damn good job at it) to scare people as much as they can and make them paranoid so they can be dependant on thier goverment and taxes. There are actually a lot more good people in this world than bad. The other thing is that bad news usually effect people a lot deeper than the good news. A bad even can scar you for life, but godd event wont last as near as that long. So its not suprising that you have such image of the world. I dont blame you. This actually reminds of one coca-cola comercial I've seen on TV few weeks back. Its not directly related to this topic but you get the idea
http://youtu.be/9dHOzw5KSlE
And while it is true that humans have put an end to a lot of animal species, they still remain the only one that CARES for OTHER species, fed them, give them shelter, protect them and heal them. No other animal cares that much for other species as humans. But the thing is, humans are probably one of the most individualistic species on the planet. Trying to judge them based off of few individuals would be stupid and counter productive. Humans put, by far, the most effort in both killing and protecting other animals.
Again, you're using conflicting terms for the top of the food chain terminology. Killer Whales also kill humans for fun, along with other species. There's a large number of species that can and do hunt humans.
Yes, and which party is more succesful? When both species are predators of one to another, which is is higher on the food chain? The one that is more succesful in hunting and kiling its prey. And no one is more succesful than humans in that :)
You must really tell me what kind of technology do you have in your country that allows you to say, without doubt, that humanity can survive any kind of general extinction event, as there a vast number of scenarios that humanity doesn't stand a figment of chance, such as supervolcanic eruptions that would cover the atmosphere with enough ash to block out the sun and rise global temperatures to unsustainable levels, any kind of meteor impact similar to the one in the end of the cretacic period, or global nuclear warfare. And let's not talk about the extreme scenarios, such as the dissapearance of the magnetic field. For all of our technology, we are still just as vulnerable as we ever were.
I didnt say WE WOULD survive, I said WE ARE MOST LIKELY to survive than other animal species on the planet (excluding roaches and some other insects, who are too insignificant for any kid of natural process)
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