@OP

Animal testing is no more barbaric than the meat industry.

You have the choice as a human to turn away, ignore the horrible truth, or face it and prepare for some difficulty. Clearly most people, in this case and in life in general, choose the easy road.

Slavery was the norm a few hundred years ago. Now the average person is disgusted by that history, BUT THE FACT IS if you put them in those times they most probably would have ignored it and just tried to 'enjoy' their life - just like they do now.

What about people that face the truth but don't care?

I remember opening a rat's belly and his heart would still beat. It's not really testing but let's call it The Final Test

Thanks to this rat now I'm more educated in biology :)

Not a bad argument. But then you have to concede that you also don't give a shit about the millions of people that die from war/aids/rape/famine etc. etc. except if they are somehow associated to you.

Because lets face it, everyone loves their own dog but doesn't even look when there's a dead one in the street.

Though I much prefer this honest appoach to the ''I'll adopt it when it suits me'' bs that the majority of people spit out.

its a sick act! but there will always be sick fucks in this world.

Yeah, really classy there.

Tell me then, how do you reckon I should do my recombinant DNA thesis that's based solely on the DNA reparation system in animals and trying to upgrade the polymerase's correction system, with tests that necessarely involve animal tissue and live animal beings (lab mice)? How would you do it, since the ethical way, as you say, is only made by sick fucks?

Good and bad are surprisingly not natural and are made by : Humans. So really, good is anything that humans think is "good". Animals follow exactly what immortal said, they kill others for meat and flesh to survive, and hence they exist. Its called a food chain.

Your example of whites and non-whites doesn't apply in this situation, because there is no white and black in humans, its a concept created by idiots and is now used by idiots. Its an imaginary division that doesn't exist in nature.

I don't even like meat that much but I understand that in the end we humans can afford to eat animals without them getting extinct.

Agree with Torillian here. There just isnt any other way. Animal testing is a thing we have to accept until the technology is so far to emulate a human body to the tiniest detail. That would also lead to an unimaginable increase of discoverys and advancements and a massive price drop for tons of products. Most noticably in pharmaceuticals

Wow, that hurt. You can point out ignorance and contradictions without being so downright offensive, you know.

I can see how you'd connect those two statements (I'm not white, by the way, so thankfully I don't feel like you're actually accusing me of racism, :P), but part of it I think is that I didn't explain myself well enough. "Completely fail as a species" was my way of saying, in the long run, going extinct, not "being less superior" or something subjective and ridiculous like that.

I was saying that not killing animals is the same as not killing plants and that not killing plants is essentially committing suicide as a species.

I'm not deluded enough to think that that statement is free of logical and philosophical contradictions in any way so would you be oh-so-kind enough to waste your time explaining my stupidity to me? I can only become less stupid as a result, even if it wastes your clearly precious time.

By the way, these "first-world-person" and "western world" comments are hurting me especially because I come from and have lived in a "third world" country for most of my life and generally look down upon most recent western practices and ideologies, even if I'm used to them now. You're making me feel as ignorant and misinformed as I rather hoped I wasn't.

People Eat Tasty Animals

Animal testing is in no ways barbaric.  How some decide to DO THAT testing, that might be barbaric.