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well the feel of it right now is that there does seem to be a rush to protect linkz... at the same time I really don't understand the rush to claim miller... to me it's a pain for town as it's a character you'd want the mafia to target... now they certainly won't (whether he says the truth or not). Moreover, it's a forced lynch for town however linkz plays... as he basically gave us a cop result.

I'm not a fan of millers claiming, but he did and people defend him, finding arguments for him... so ok, if Hat flips mafia then it's a direct linkz lynch for me.

i'm not decided on lynching hat just yet though ^^



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I don't recall evilbanna playing before here (that's wongle something no?)... this deserves an early mod poke to check in.... (poke worked somewhat with marcus last game, so early is better).



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Kantor said:
Red Kantor standing by.

Vote: Words of Wisdom.


why red?



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hatmoza said:
So we know Heph,stating that he doesn't have a nice ass, isn't Nathan, Elena or Chloe. They have nice asses. Though I'm thinking maybe the mod is roleplaying Nathan.

So that leaves us with Radish and Linkz being one of the 3 characters mentioned above.

I can assure everyone that character does not equal alliance, or role for that matter O_o


1) missreading

2) 12 players, 13 people at the dig site, one dies... I doubt the mod is roleplaying any character.



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radishhead said:
 Also, I did a quick wiki check on the character that I believe Linkz might be and I can sort of understand why they might be a miller character.

I have no idea why people accepted this statement....

Linkz claims miller -> radish thinks of a character that fits miller -> Wiki said character -> surprise! it's probable this is a miller character....

Why wiki what you already knew?

 

this, to me, sounds as a fabricated up argument there only to support linkz' claim.

FoS Radish

FoS Linkz (by association)

 

hatmoza said:
Ok, after sleeping onj it. I believe Linkz.

He's Chloe and Miller. They fit. What makes even more sense to me is that he was not afraid to roleclaim because none of the consequences Wonk listed will apply to him. He has no ability to lose.

Interestingly enough, after reading a little bit more about my character, I have no proof like I claimed earlier that role character and alignment don't match.

This here sounds even worse... it's a name claim (which are authorised) made by a player for an otherone.... so what happends, well the real chloe can say "No" and directly paint a target on him/herself... or this can become a confirmation of linkz that will be only undone by chloe's death at which point Linkz can just say "i never said I was chloe".

Moreover... doesn't linkz lose his vote? that's a pretty big thing to forfeit so early in the day.... meaning linkz is unable to influance the voting patern of the day anymore. (I played as a hammer only guy a few rounds back... and it really is torture...).

FoS Hat

Wonktonodi said:
So I have decided on the consequences for roleclaims.
It will just be one of the 3 I listed before. Loss of an active ability, loss of passive ability, or loss of vote.
Loss of an active ability would mean in the next night any action would become no action.
Loss of passive ability would mean the ability is gone for a day or night.
Loss of Vote means although I will show your vote it won't actually count and that would be for the remainder of the day the claim took place on.

I will only inform the played what it was once it has passes.

 

oh and as prof pointed out... radish had no interaction with Hat... and he ignored Prof's HoS on that.



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I actually think radish is the only one of the three that are under suspicion that is actually scum.

I believe hatmoza is just running through the rounds of his normal playstyle. And ATM I don't really believe he is scum.

I don't really see a benefit to Linkz claiming miller this early, at least there is more risk than reward that is associated with it. It just seems too bold of a move to make that would spell early death for him. So claiming this as scum doesn't make sense.

Vote: radishhead



VOTALS!

on players

Hat: prof, nen

Radish: vett

by players

prof: hat

nen: hat

vett: radish

with 12 people it would take 7 votes for a majority, with the current spread of votes 7 is what is needed for the lynch.

Note there have been 0 votes of 5 needed to stop the time limit for the day there are 6 hour 45 min left to vote on that.

If the time limit remains there are 54 hour 45 min left for day one.



oh and as a reminder please bold your votes



the banana had been poked

also heph was there actually a question for me in there?



Baalzamon said:
Honestly, with what I've seen of Hatmoza in mafia, this just seems like Hatmoza being Hatmoza. He tries to get things all worked up and getting the attention spotlight on him. Not saying there is anything bad about this, it is just how I've interpreted his playstyle.


But there's always a secret to my attention seeking -doing and saying things so retarded (not always retarded though D:) that it provokes reactions and opinions. Which gives me and other pro towns a better read on players. Scum need something so blatantly contradictory to grasp on, and I'm always more than happy to provide the bait. And I'm not talking about who teams up with me and who throws suspicion on me. I could care less about that. I want genuine reactions so I can decide who is actively trying to scum hunt, and who are the actors.

... either that or I'm just drunk talking atm.



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