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Linkzmax said:
Baalzamon said:

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@Heph: I'm not exactly certain how you know for a fact that the penalty for claiming didn't affect Linkz.  Who's to say he doesn't have an additional portion to his role similar to hatmoza, that he may have lost for the day?  Also, how do you know he didn't lose his ability to vote?  His final vote was on nen.  Hatmoza and Radish tied for the most votes against them with 2 each.  We have absolutely no clue whether or not Linkz vote against nen was valid (Just because it shows up on the official votals doesn't mean it is valid...else we would more or less be told that he informed us of his role).

I thank you for your dedication to the game.(I'll assume you're being honest, because no real reason to lie even if you were scum) I wouldn't mind if others would manage even that instead of disappearing until modkill. But like I said it was a bad vote since you were going to be gone.

Anyway, naturally I'm glad for the unvote, and to me it comes off as genuine rather than giving up on a lynch.(You do note I'll likely be lynched eventually) I'd like a lot more activity from you, especially since there's plenty to speak about, so I can get a better read on you.

Oh how surprising, no comment on the penalty affecting you or not, even though you obviously read his post.

-> confirms my opinion



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Linkzmax said:
EBWOP: Forgot to mention that I stated explicitly that I wouldn't lose my vote because I checked with Wonk. Would've been nice to be confirmed, but extremely unfair so I probably wouldn't have been happy about it anyway. Still, you're smart for considering the options.

Oh I was unfair... appologizes

 

Still confirms that what I said in my reply to baal



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Linkzmax said:

Yes, it's clear hat knew he was a miller. I'm also curious if there are any more, as it was something I wondered day one. It seems unlikely at this point though.


Day one you wondered if there were other millers? is that a slip linkz?



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Linkzmax said:

Heph's a strong number two and I wouldn't be against his lynch.

I'm getting the feeling Vette or Truck are scum mostly by elimination. Vette has been far too quiet. Truck seems to be playing too... safe, but he's been scum so many times that I barely know his town play.

Haha, well i'll let you know that I usually get lynched when the mafia is leading the charge and votes against me .... so good news for you, this means you have a shot at it!



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Hephaestos said:
Final-Fan said:
I'm starting to look at Heph for scum. As for nen's hint, if he's not working himself up to a cop claim I don't know what he is.

To be honest I doubt I'd be convinced by it (even though unlike prof I have no preferred candidate). Right now I still think one of nen and Linkz need to go today.

Yeah i'm scum cause I insist to lynch a player that you say is one of 2 that must go... that's infaillble logic.

Or maybe you say my points are wrong:

A) He claimed that his night result would be "guilty" (that is essensially what a miller claim is)

B) He claims that the RULES do not apply to him

C) His role is already taken by a dead guy

D) We won't get more info on linkz with the night, but we might get more info on nen

 

Please FF, enlighten me on how these points are wrong. You've put forward so many arguments this game, a few more won't hurt you.


*nods head*

Could've said it it better.



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nen, why did you choose to target hat?



Hephaestos said:
Final-Fan said:
I'm starting to look at Heph for scum. As for nen's hint, if he's not working himself up to a cop claim I don't know what he is.

To be honest I doubt I'd be convinced by it (even though unlike prof I have no preferred candidate). Right now I still think one of nen and Linkz need to go today.

Yeah i'm scum cause I insist to lynch a player that you say is one of 2 that must go... that's infaillble logic.

Or maybe you say my points are wrong:

A) He claimed that his night result would be "guilty" (that is essensially what a miller claim is)

B) He claims that the RULES do not apply to him

C) His role is already taken by a dead guy

D) We won't get more info on linkz with the night, but we might get more info on nen

 

Please FF, enlighten me on how these points are wrong. You've put forward so many arguments this game, a few more won't hurt you.

A) True, but not scum.

B) I haven't once said the rules don't apply to me. I haven't broken the rules, and no that doesn't mean I fakeclaimed miller.

C) I'm not a miller bomb, so I don't see your point.

D) You keep saying this, and it makes me think nen is mafia power that you want to keep alive for at least another night. If nen is the cop, then we're not going to get any additional info on him at night.



Hephaestos said:
Linkzmax said:
Hephaestos said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Wonk has already stated that characters and alignment don't fit and I can personally guarantee that they don't.


Chloe =/= auto good guy

Nobody has ever argued that. The only argument made is you saying hat believed Chloe, Elena, and Nathan = bad guys, yet decided he'd not raise suspicions against myself or radish and would keep who he thought was Nathan a secret. It makes even less sense that hat as miller would have this theory on the trio and think I'm being truthful about my claim instead of just confessing that I'm the scum he thinks the trio must be.

Hat will know, but to me the fact that he had to sleep on it means that your miller claim was not what he expected and his confirmation in the morning means he convinced himself that he was initially wrong in his approach. Proof of that is his reversal on the character alignment (which in effect, means that mafia would have been "good" characters).

Yeah you keep pushing that inane theory of yours.



Hephaestos said:
Linkzmax said:

Yes, it's clear hat knew he was a miller. I'm also curious if there are any more, as it was something I wondered day one. It seems unlikely at this point though.


Day one you wondered if there were other millers? is that a slip linkz?

How is that a slip? I've read games that have multiple millers. I knew it wasn't impossible to have more than one, but it's still hard to fathom.

Why would I try to fakeclaim miller if I thought there was actually one or more and thus would be even more likely to be lynched than the fakeclaim itself?