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hatmoza said:
Hephaestos said:
hatmoza said:
So we know Heph,stating that he doesn't have a nice ass, isn't Nathan, Elena or Chloe. They have nice asses. Though I'm thinking maybe the mod is roleplaying Nathan.

So that leaves us with Radish and Linkz being one of the 3 characters mentioned above.

I can assure everyone that character does not equal alliance, or role for that matter O_o


1) missreading

2) 12 players, 13 people at the dig site, one dies... I doubt the mod is roleplaying any character.

1-Nothing to misread. I deducted that Radish and Linkz are Elena and Chloe. StillI could be very wrong. I doubt it, but I could.

2- Lets just say, Nathan got my message loud and clear.

Well this is just pinpointing, but by missreading I mean that I never said I didn't have a nice ass... I said I had no idea. That discution is over though as I was content with linkz' clarification of radish's explanation.



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hatmoza said:
nen-suer said:
hatmoza said:

You always make the same mistake as scum. Remind me to share that with you after the OP. I would just spit it out right now but I don't want it to have an observer-expectancy effect. I want more discussion before I make concrete contrasting.

Right now, you are up there on my suspect list next to Prof and Balz my friend.

 

Edit: this was a reply to nen's http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4228738  not a reply  to Prof.

Oh please share it with me now Kogomori-san.

Well you and Linkz are on my list (and radish too if Linkz turn-up mafia)

Also are you seriously suspecting Balz just because of that post?! (or did he say anything else that i missed)

You know, as a huge kogumori fan, I found that lol funny.

Who do feel is town?

Your confidence reminds me of him...........its true he's wrong 99.99% of the time, but i admire him (you) for it :)

 

Who do i feel town ? 

I can only tell you (and i already did) who i feel is mafia. Why ?

Because imo answering this question can never bring anything positive.



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hatmoza said:
Hephaestos said:
well the feel of it right now is that there does seem to be a rush to protect linkz... at the same time I really don't understand the rush to claim miller... to me it's a pain for town as it's a character you'd want the mafia to target... now they certainly won't (whether he says the truth or not). Moreover, it's a forced lynch for town however linkz plays... as he basically gave us a cop result.

I'm not a fan of millers claiming, but he did and people defend him, finding arguments for him... so ok, if Hat flips mafia then it's a direct linkz lynch for me.

i'm not decided on lynching hat just yet though ^^

If Linkz flips scum, that affiliates me to scum how exactly? If -God forbid- I get night killed and flip town, that guarantees Linkz being town how? I can make the same associations with pretty much anyone who posted today. Your logic has to be deeper than that.

@bolded Decided or not, lynching me so easily could never happen. heck, the only way I could possibly get lynched is a cop investigation stating I'm scum. I never roll over.

Ah, no, everything but the bolded was about linkz, not you... All i say there is that if you flip mafia i'd want linkz lynched, not the other way arround. (that is why the logic is shallow, there's only one connection in one direction, nothing more complicated).

The link I draw about you though is a small one with Radish... because you both kind of claimed for linkz. (not in the above post)



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Linkzmax said:

Semantics. Though it doesn't read literally as such, I meant the scummates implication you were making which is a two-way connection. You did clearly only state it as one direction,(though as I've done in the past, hat makes a good point in the flaws of your logic) though with the connections you've made I feel like you're already painting me as scum and using others as evidence against me.

The fact that you said I'd be a direct lynch if hat flips mafia means you aren't even considering he could be buddying up to me, which means you are again implying I'm scum. There's little harm for scum in pushing for an "easy" mislynch and huge gains if the focus of a day can be on said mislynch.

Finally, it's a statement like the bolded which is why I'm expecting to be lynched, but I don't think it's a certainty either. I know that auto-lynching a miller claim at some point during the game isn't the right move, and I have some faith that there are others that will see that also.

Well it's first day and with the info we have (you claimed something.... and maybe others names), as far as I can go is make connections where they "could" be. As it happens, one of the arguments to my train of though was radish, you took that down, so now I still cling to the idea (cause a wrong argument doesn't mean the connections are wrong), but as you'll have noticed, I'm not pushing in that direction, just staying where I am. I do consider the buddying... but I disagree on the miller part... especially since you're keen to experiment new tactics (both as town and scum), so I'm not intent on being complaisant there.



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Wonktonodi said:
VOTALS!

on players

Hat: prof, nen,

Radish: vett, final-fan

nen: linkz

by players

prof: hat

nen: hat

vett: radish

final-fan: radish

linkz: nen

with 12 people it would take 7 votes for a majority, with the current spread of votes 6 is what is needed for a lynch before the time limit.

so basically we have proff/nen vs Hat/linkz with baal and radish as the respective cheerleaders... poke kantor ^^

and damn you radish for being such an easy vote target that it's hard to get reads based on these votes..



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Linkzmax said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Linkzmax said:

TruckOSaurus said:

There's also the option where we take advantage of the roleclaim penalty in place and use his non-vote to confirm him.

Not an option. I would have liked it if that were the case as it would have confirmed me and my vote wouldn't be as important on the first day as on a later day, but I checked with Wonk prior to my claim(or it would have been in my first post instead) and he either realized that would be the case or got lucky. I'm not going to incur a loss of vote for the day.

I just reread Wonk's rules about roleclaiming and I don't see any reason why you shouldn't lose your vote today.

There's three options:

Loss of activte ability - you don't have one
Loss of positive passive ability - being scanned guilty is not positive
Loss of vote - the only one that applies to you

Since Wonk said that if the penalty he "draws" for the person who roleclaims doesn't apply, he'll move on to the next down the list you should be guaranteed to lose your vote today.

Should I repeat myself? You're literally saying that a nearly unconfirmable role should be easily confirmed by a nearly meaningless penalty at this point in the game.

You do realize that the answer you're giving to "you lie" is "no, the mod made a broken game".



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I don't even understand what I've done wrong this game - I'm sure that people are deliberately misunderstanding things that I say just so that they have an excuse to lynch me

For the record, I'm going to put up the vote:no lynch, just to show that it's the current stance that I feel is needed here - as of now, there isn't enough evidence to lynch anyone; however I will alter this vote once the situation changes



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Wonktonodi said:
A bad Clown is replacing the evil banana.
12 and a half hours left in the day. Votals coming shortly


Thanks for the PM verifying that I am indeed still an invisible unkillable pro-town doctor who can investigate at night -_-



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Wonktonodi said:
VOTALS!

on players

Hat: prof, nen,

Radish: vett, final-fan

nen: linkz

no lynch: radish

by players

prof: hat

nen: hat

vett: radish

final-fan: radish

linkz: nen

radish: no lynch

with 12 people it would take 7 votes for a majority, with the current spread of votes 6 is what is needed for a lynch before the time limit.