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Linkzmax on 21 September 2011
hatmoza said:

Linkzmax said:

It's strange that you ruled out Elena(Nathan I can understand given your previous reasoning) given your previous assurance that character does not equal aliance or role. Did you really do some research or was it gauging for reactions?

That being said, the name was pretty easy to figure out once I agreed it was one of three people IF you try to match character with role and alignment. However, I also think it's odd you didn't think I'd be penalized when at least two others assumed I did.

I don't expect/want radish to nameclaim, but if you were right about us earlier than he's Elena, and I'd wager someone more experienced in Uncharted could guess your character(given the nice ass comment) and then we'd know if this change in belief actually fits.

Chloe fits the ability, just like my character fits theirs. And in case you didn't figure it out Einstein, that's the reason I believe you are town. I'm not worried about people assuming I'm budding up with you, results of my/your findings will back up our pro-alignment.

I did research, and I cannot say anything about it or I'll lose my ability. A single word can give it away. Let's just say It was such a forgettable moment in the game for me.

I addressed why it's easy to figure out Chloe given a simple conditional. It was strange due to your flip-flop in assurances, which has only now been explained by a forgettable moment. Fine by me.

I never questioned your belief in me as town. I thought the inconsistency and assumption to be strange, but otherwise I thought I've been giving the impression that I don't think you're scum. I mean sure I'm stating my thoughts of the implications and hat's off(:p) to you if you actually are, but I trust you most at this point. Your "drunk talking" post was like ripped straight from my head, and that is why I don't like how you defended me. You stole a good amount of the attention from me, and I think my self-centric reads are much better than the cross-reactions of others which I'm still working on, so that was a downer. Only thing bothering me at the moment is the "no care attitude" feels a bit forced, but I digress.

So since you have nen on your suspect list and he's pinged my gut as well, shall we push for a lynch?

Vote: nen-suer



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Linkzmax on 21 September 2011
radishhead said:
Final-Fan said:
I changed my mind.

Vote radishhead.


Because you think I'm Mafia, or because you think I'm a threat to the town?

I'll make the same assumption that FF truly wants you lynched. Do you know that you left out an option, and if so what is it?



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Wonktonodi on 21 September 2011

VOTALS!

on players

Hat: prof, nen,

Radish: vett, final-fan

nen: linkz

by players

prof: hat

nen: hat

vett: radish

final-fan: radish

linkz: nen

with 12 people it would take 7 votes for a majority, with the current spread of votes 6 is what is needed for a lynch before the time limit.



nen-suer on 21 September 2011
Linkzmax said:
hatmoza said:

Chloe fits the ability, just like my character fits theirs. And in case you didn't figure it out Einstein, that's the reason I believe you are town. I'm not worried about people assuming I'm budding up with you, results of my/your findings will back up our pro-alignment.

I did research, and I cannot say anything about it or I'll lose my ability. A single word can give it away. Let's just say It was such a forgettable moment in the game for me.

I addressed why it's easy to figure out Chloe given a simple conditional. It was strange due to your flip-flop in assurances, which has only now been explained by a forgettable moment. Fine by me.

I never questioned your belief in me as town. I thought the inconsistency and assumption to be strange, but otherwise I thought I've been giving the impression that I don't think you're scum. I mean sure I'm stating my thoughts of the implications and hat's off(:p) to you if you actually are, but I trust you most at this point. Your "drunk talking" post was like ripped straight from my head, and that is why I don't like how you defended me. You stole a good amount of the attention from me, and I think my self-centric reads are much better than the cross-reactions of others which I'm still working on, so that was a downer. Only thing bothering me at the moment is the "no care attitude" feels a bit forced, but I digress.

So since you have nen on your suspect list and he's pinged my gut as well, shall we push for a lynch?

Vote: nen-suer

Hey, hope that guts feeling isn't just you holding a grudge from my last game

Anywho i'm surprised of how you chose to ignore radish and hats scummy posts and chose to vote me just because of a "gut" a feeling

that have no logical reasons. Its not like you to be play like this...so unless you changed your style in the few months i was away

i'd ask you what the hell are yo doing.

I still suspect you and hat, not too sure about radish because he always says the wrong things so i cant really hang him for just that.



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nen-suer on 21 September 2011
hatmoza said:
theprof00 said:
Baalzamon said:
Honestly, with what I've seen of Hatmoza in mafia, this just seems like Hatmoza being Hatmoza. He tries to get things all worked up and getting the attention spotlight on him. Not saying there is anything bad about this, it is just how I've interpreted his playstyle.

That is always a possibility. However, it's rare that he gets the spotlight on himself by saying seemingly contradictory things.

I have a couple different theories which I'm not yet ready to share until he possibly shares it himself.


You always make the same mistake as scum. Remind me to share that with you after the OP. I would just spit it out right now but I don't want it to have an observer-expectancy effect. I want more discussion before I make concrete contrasting.

Right now, you are up there on my suspect list next to Prof and Balz my friend.

 

Edit: this was a reply to nen's http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4228738  not a reply  to Prof.

Oh please share it with me now Kogomori-san.

Well you and Linkz are on my list (and radish too if Linkz turn-up mafia)

Also are you seriously suspecting Balz just because of that post?! (or did he say anything else that i missed)



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radishhead on 21 September 2011
Linkzmax said:
radishhead said:
Final-Fan said:
I changed my mind.

Vote radishhead.


Because you think I'm Mafia, or because you think I'm a threat to the town?

I'll make the same assumption that FF truly wants you lynched. Do you know that you left out an option, and if so what is it?

To be honest, there's little reason to lynch someone who you believe to be town just because they confused you with an earlier post.

This implies that FF believes that I'm Mafia

 

Why?



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TruckOSaurus on 21 September 2011
Linkzmax said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Linkzmax said:

TruckOSaurus said:

There's also the option where we take advantage of the roleclaim penalty in place and use his non-vote to confirm him.

Not an option. I would have liked it if that were the case as it would have confirmed me and my vote wouldn't be as important on the first day as on a later day, but I checked with Wonk prior to my claim(or it would have been in my first post instead) and he either realized that would be the case or got lucky. I'm not going to incur a loss of vote for the day.

I just reread Wonk's rules about roleclaiming and I don't see any reason why you shouldn't lose your vote today.

There's three options:

Loss of activte ability - you don't have one
Loss of positive passive ability - being scanned guilty is not positive
Loss of vote - the only one that applies to you

Since Wonk said that if the penalty he "draws" for the person who roleclaims doesn't apply, he'll move on to the next down the list you should be guaranteed to lose your vote today.

Should I repeat myself? You're literally saying that a nearly unconfirmable role should be easily confirmed by a nearly meaningless penalty at this point in the game.

There's not much you can count on as being true in a Mafia game but one of those things are the rules. What you're saying right now is that the rules don't apply to you because it would be inconvenient. That might be the case but then that defeats the point of having rules.



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Linkzmax on 21 September 2011
nen-suer said:
Linkzmax said:

Hey, hope that guts feeling isn't just you holding a grudge from my last game

Anywho i'm surprised of how you chose to ignore radish and hats scummy posts and chose to vote me just because of a "gut" a feeling

that have no logical reasons. Its not like you to be play like this...so unless you changed your style in the few months i was away

i'd ask you what the hell are yo doing.

I still suspect you and hat, not too sure about radish because he always says the wrong things so i cant really hang him for just that.

If I were one to hold grudges, I'd be working to get hat lynched for faking a guilty scan on me when I was inno scanning scum. The only thing I take from previous games is the experience.

I'm ignoring radish's scumminess because I've pretty much decided I'm going to give him a pass day one in every game. At the rate he's going here he's a shoe-in for a lynch down the line, but I want to get as much as I can from him without pressure of a lynch. hat's posts have been "strange" but I wouldn't call them scummy, and that's already explained in my post that you quoted.

I did explain what I don't like from you already, so it's not just a random feeling with no backing. I do admit it isn't much, but it's enough for me to want to lynch you over hat or radish.



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hatmoza on 21 September 2011
nen-suer said:
hatmoza said:
theprof00 said:
Baalzamon said:
Honestly, with what I've seen of Hatmoza in mafia, this just seems like Hatmoza being Hatmoza. He tries to get things all worked up and getting the attention spotlight on him. Not saying there is anything bad about this, it is just how I've interpreted his playstyle.

That is always a possibility. However, it's rare that he gets the spotlight on himself by saying seemingly contradictory things.

I have a couple different theories which I'm not yet ready to share until he possibly shares it himself.


You always make the same mistake as scum. Remind me to share that with you after the OP. I would just spit it out right now but I don't want it to have an observer-expectancy effect. I want more discussion before I make concrete contrasting.

Right now, you are up there on my suspect list next to Prof and Balz my friend.

 

Edit: this was a reply to nen's http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4228738  not a reply  to Prof.

Oh please share it with me now Kogomori-san.

Well you and Linkz are on my list (and radish too if Linkz turn-up mafia)

Also are you seriously suspecting Balz just because of that post?! (or did he say anything else that i missed)

You know, as a huge kogumori fan, I found that lol funny.

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nen-suer on 21 September 2011
Linkzmax said:
nen-suer said:
Linkzmax said:

Hey, hope that guts feeling isn't just you holding a grudge from my last game

Anywho i'm surprised of how you chose to ignore radish and hats scummy posts and chose to vote me just because of a "gut" a feeling

that have no logical reasons. Its not like you to be play like this...so unless you changed your style in the few months i was away

i'd ask you what the hell are yo doing.

I still suspect you and hat, not too sure about radish because he always says the wrong things so i cant really hang him for just that.

If I were one to hold grudges, I'd be working to get hat lynched for faking a guilty scan on me when I was inno scanning scum. The only thing I take from previous games is the experience.

I'm ignoring radish's scumminess because I've pretty much decided I'm going to give him a pass day one in every game. At the rate he's going here he's a shoe-in for a lynch down the line, but I want to get as much as I can from him without pressure of a lynch. hat's posts have been "strange" but I wouldn't call them scummy, and that's already explained in my post that you quoted.

I did explain what I don't like from you already, so it's not just a random feeling with no backing. I do admit it isn't much, but it's enough for me to want to lynch you over hat or radish.

So its because i doubted your claim ? Thats even worse >_>

Millers are bad and they only  appear when the mafia are in a disadvantage against the town (either in numbers or abilities)

when someone role claim a miller you lunch that player asap when the town can afford a misslynch because  millers dont have any useful abilities and its usually a role a scum can hide behind.

I'm 75% sure your mafia not only because of your role claim, but for the opinions you voiced regarding Hat, radish and me

If radish or Hat turn-up mafia that will only increase my suspicion.



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