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What did he say to this girl that made her want to kill herself? I'm confused. Nowhere in the article does it mention that he said anything to her. All I saw were comments he's made about people who have already died.

Can someone point out where he had some sort of connection to her death?



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sapphi_snake said:
Marks said:
sethnintendo said:
rutea7 said:
he should have been banned from social networks for life, he's a pathetic little creature


Sign me up for the ban.  Social network sites are pretty lame if you ask me (which is why I deleted all my accounts).  If anything he should have been made to do community service.  Where are you going to draw the line to what is a jailable offensive remark?  Humans are turning into big pussies and social networks are allowing them to become even more pussified.  If you kill yourself because of someone talking shit to you over the internet that you don't even know then you are pretty lame.  It is time to realize that humans can be nice and they can be shit.  You just gotta sift through the shit to find the good ones.  Too bad teenagers overreact to everything (aka thinking high school is the whole fucking world).


Couldn't agree more. All this political correctness and forcing us to be nice to each other is turning people into bitches/pussies. The founding fathers would probably be embarrassed at how their country is now, so few civil liberties. 

The founding fathers were also slave owners. And they have little to do with the UK.


There was nothing wrong with being a slave owner in the 1700's and 1800's. You can't compare today's standards to back then. I'm just saying they built this country on civil liberties and personal freedom, not on making everyone equal and happy. 



padib said:
Kasz216 said:
padib said:
Kasz216 said:
padib said:
Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
 

Considering the writer of that article, his opinion doesn't deserve much attention.

So you judge opinions by seeing who makes them rather then the merit of said arguements.

Kasz, having read that article Toby Young makes a point that is: "Who can judge the subjectivity of offense". But a good comment at the bottom of the page sheds light on the objectivity of the matter:

"It's been mentioned, but I'll say it again.  This is not a case of a troll.  This is an evil kind of harassment, it is stalking, it is libel.  These people stalk the parents of dead children to leave public messages that their murdered daughters were whores who deserved to die.  These people steal pictures of crime scenes and anonymously pass them around and around and around, so whenever grieving parents go on the internet, there it is, yet again, a picture of their teenager's severed head, with more horrific comments concerning their dead child's lack of all worth and their having deserved to die.  These are endlessly forwarded on, so the parents have no peace.  It is harassment, it is stalking, and it is libel, all rolled into one."

True though, it does give a sense that people are less free to post the darker sides of their minds.

If it's libel, he should be sued for libel.  If he stole pictures from crime scenes.... he should be prosecuted for stealing pictures of crime scenes.

1)Well, the commenter judged it as libel, you can agree or disagree. I personally agree that it is libel (which is defammation right?), though the laws in the UK fly miles over my head (I'm Canadian and not entrenched in law). Whether he is judged as that or not is a different story, and the verdict may or may not be the most just/true one. Not to say I discredit the verdict but again the poster may be right.

This would be like finding someone guilty of walking down the street, because he was walking down the street while wearing someone elses watch and talking with someone else about how they kill children.

It's utterly ridiculious... and sets a precedent that allows for the punishment of something that SHOULD be legally protected.

 

It's not stalking though.  That's silly.   

I think he was either mentioning facts that were ignored in the article, or relating to other instances where defamers were not incarcerated.

Let alone letting your first "perp" be one with a diagnosed mental illness that specifically makes it harder for him to relate with others.  (Aspergers.)

He has Aspergers does he? A mental illness? I didn't read that but ok.


He wasn't charged with libel in the courts.  So it's irrelevent. 

It's not the court's verdict that strictly matters to us. Some of us like to ask questions like what would your verdict be, or do you think that's what he deserves, and such.

It's exactly the reason why this thread was created, to talk about it, and of course to show how dumb some people can be.

I don't see your point.  I mean the fact still remains he was sentenced for something that SHOULDN'T be a crime.



He should have posted the insults from someone else's computer :D



Marks said:
The Fury said:
Marks said:
miz1q2w3e said:
Total sicko but I have no respect for the girl who killed herself because of his comments
You can't let people get to you like that, there a lot of people like this jerk or worse! :(


lol yeah no kidding eh? I read the comments it said she received (in the BBC article) and they weren't even that bad. If she offed herself that quickly what would she have done when she was older and got fired from her job or something? 

Not be a teenage girl and less emotional thinking she is being singled out and bullied for no reason, whether comments are bad they still are done with malice and can be emotionally scaring. Show some respect. 

 

A dickshit got put in jail, well done UK law.


I agree he deserves to have his ass beaten, but jail time? Seems a waste. 

She's just weak skinned. If she killed herself after a couple anonymous insults then yeah its sad, but whatever. Look at the massive abuse Rebecca Black took for her music! She got death threats, massive insults, hate, etc. I don't like her songs but I respect her strength to deal with it and ignore the hate. 

you have the empathy of a rock, you I and no one else knows her mental state it's a fact that  people with depression feel isolated unable to communicate       these very raw emotions ,in part because of this high and mighty attitude that some people have that you just grow a thick skin, that's a real clever way to treat a mental disorder.



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He's a turd, but the article clearly states he has serious psychic problems, mandatory treatment would have been more appropriate than jail.



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mjk45 said:
Marks said:
The Fury said:
Marks said:
miz1q2w3e said:
Total sicko but I have no respect for the girl who killed herself because of his comments
You can't let people get to you like that, there a lot of people like this jerk or worse! :(


lol yeah no kidding eh? I read the comments it said she received (in the BBC article) and they weren't even that bad. If she offed herself that quickly what would she have done when she was older and got fired from her job or something? 

Not be a teenage girl and less emotional thinking she is being singled out and bullied for no reason, whether comments are bad they still are done with malice and can be emotionally scaring. Show some respect. 

 

A dickshit got put in jail, well done UK law.


I agree he deserves to have his ass beaten, but jail time? Seems a waste. 

She's just weak skinned. If she killed herself after a couple anonymous insults then yeah its sad, but whatever. Look at the massive abuse Rebecca Black took for her music! She got death threats, massive insults, hate, etc. I don't like her songs but I respect her strength to deal with it and ignore the hate. 

you have the empathy of a rock, you I and no one else knows her mental state it's a fact that  people with depression feel isolated unable to communicate       these very raw emotions ,in part because of this high and mighty attitude that some people have that you just grow a thick skin, that's a real clever way to treat a mental disorder.


I wish I had empathy like you do (being honest here) but its just not who I am. If I say something sympathetic its just fabricated. I don't try to be something I'm not. 

And anyways I'm sick of this nanny state we're in. If the bullying ever became physical then I'm all for authority stepping in to stop it and punish the offender, that's what the government is there for...to protect individuals from others... but so called "cyber bullying" is so lame to me. Where do you draw the line on what's acceptable teasing and what is worthy of 4-5 months in jail (I think it said that guy got 18 weeks). With doing this now every parent of a kid who offs him/herself will be expecting the school bully to get 18 weeks in jail. 



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'There is an international consensus that hate speech needs to be prohibited by law, and that such prohibitions override or are irrelevant to guarantees of freedom of expression. The United States is perhaps unique among the developed world in that under law hate speech regulation is incompatible with free speech.'

Free speech should be kept free.



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i hope hes ready for the trolling about to be done in his *bleep*



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