sapphi_snake said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
He surely did something VERY wrong! It's just that amongst all the people that bullied or trolled those dead teens, he's the one that could have done it with least consciousness of the consequences of his actions on others' feelings, let's just accept he's guilty because he was conscious enough, still it's wrong to choose right him as an exemplary case. And given his conditions and what he did, surely he shouldn't be left free, even if totally unconscious, mandatory treatment would still be necessary to protect both him and society, but even if the degree of is guilt is higher the time of the sentence should be spent curing and rehabilitating him, closing him in a jail without adequate cures will just make him worse.The father himself of one of the victims stated he feels anger and indignation, but also pity for him.
BTW, Duffy himself asked the judges to consider three other cases where he trolled dead younsters http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/man-jailed-for-memorial-abuse-posts-2354073.html Why? Does he realise he fell into an obsession he can't control and want to be stopped?
About those girls, we don't know how small or big was their contribution to push Natasha to suicide, but they had some, and bigger than Sean Duffy's one, as he had absolutely no part in it. So, again, it looks wrong that just his case become the exemplary one.
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There may simply be nothing to cure. If you're talking about the Asperger syndrome, I already mentioned that that cannot be cured. He was also surely evaluated by a psychiatrist before the trial, and the psychiatrist obviously didn't see any need to reccomend treatment.
And Duffy asked the judges to consider 3 other offences, which I have no ideea why he did. He only dug his grave deeper (unless he really wanted to go to jail).
Also, Duffy didn't contribute at all to Natasha's suicide, he contributed to the harassment of her parents, which is what he was tried and sentenced for. This is why I said that bringing up those girls was irrelevant. These are simply 2 separate matters. And speaking of those girls, no complaints against them were filed, and it's unlikely there's any evidence to build a case (unlike in the case of Duffy). And even Narasha's parents didn't blame them for her death. They just said they were one of many factors that cobntributed to Natasha's deicsion to kill herself.
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If he cannot be cured, then he can't be considered 100% responsible of the terrible way he deals with social life and communication.
But actually, despite Asperger can't be "healed", often its worst effects can be "cured", as people affected can learn, in a more mechanical way, but they still can, and living in a more civil enviroment can help them a lot to behave better.
About the relevance of the bullying case, had his case stayed confined within exclusively what he did, then nothing else would be relevant, but in the very moment they want to make him an example against a broader range of trolling, bullying and harassment, then many more other cases become relevant and making just his case an example looks wrong. Natasha's parents don't blame bullies exclusively, but saying they were amongst many factors contributing to her suicide they surely don't absolve them. And obviously, as they bullied her directly and verbally, not online, they didn't leave evidences to build a case, unless other students testify against them, but I wouldn't count on it. So we can only hope nobody else commit suicide and should other students kill themselves, it looks like people and judges will be happy to prosecute just cyberbullies and leave real life bullies free, it's easier. What a wonderful world...
Finally, I don't believe in making an example of a few cases hoping they become a deterrent, I prefer that as many offenders as possible are caught and sentenced, it's a far better way to lower crime rate. USA still believe in exemplary cases and guess what, they still have a horribly high crime rate.