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Mexicans divided on terrorism charges against Twitter users facing possible 30-year sentences

A former teacher turned radio commentator and a math tutor who lives with his mother sit in a prison in southern Mexico, facing possible 30-year sentences for terrorism and sabotage in what may be the most serious charges ever brought against anyone using a Twitter social network account.

Prosecutors say the defendants helped cause a chaos of car crashes and panic as parents in the Gulf Coast city of Veracruz rushed to save their children because of false reports that gunmen were attacking schools.

Gerardo Buganza, interior secretary for Veracruz state, compared the panic to that caused by Orson Welles' 1938 radio broadcast of "The War of the Worlds." But he said the fear roused by that account of a Martian invasion of New Jersey "was small compared to what happened here."

"Here, there were 26 car accidents, or people left their cars in the middle of the streets to run and pick up their children, because they thought these things were occurring at their kids' schools," Buganza told local reporters.

The charges say the messages caused such panic that emergency numbers "totally collapsed because people were terrified," damaging service for real emergencies.

Veracruz, the state's largest city, and the neighboring suburb of Boca del Rio were already on edge after weeks of gunbattles involving drug traffickers. One attack occurred on a major boulevard. In another, gunmen tossed a grenade outside the city aquarium, killing an tourist and seriously wounding his wife and their two young children.

On Aug. 25, nerves were further frayed when residents saw armed convoys of marines circulating on the streets, making some think a confrontation with gangs was imminent.

That is when Gilberto Martinez Vera, who works as a low-paid tutor at several private schools, allegedly opened the floodgates of fear with repeated messages that gunmen were taking children from schools.

"My sister-in-law just called me all upset, they just kidnapped five children from the school," Martinez tweeted.

In fact, no such kidnappings occurred that day. Guevara, the defense lawyer, said the rumors already had started and that Martinez Vera was just relaying what others told him. She said he never claimed to have firsthand knowledge of the incident.

But in a subsequent tweet about the kidnap rumor, he said, "I don't know what time it happened, but it's true." He also tweeted that three days earlier, "they mowed down six kids between 13 and 15 in the Hidalgo neighborhood." While a similar attack occurred, it didn't involve children.

Prosecutors say the rumors were also sent by Maria de Jesus Bravo Pagola, who has worked as a teacher, a state arts official and a radio commentator. She says she was just relaying such messages to her own Twitter followers.

"How can they possibly do this to me, for re-tweeting a message? I mean, it's 140 characters. It's not logical,'" said defense lawyer Claribel Guevara, quoting her client.

Better known on the radio and social networks as "Maruchi," her Facebook site now features the Twitter logo, a little bluebird, blindfolded and standing in front of the scales of justice, with the slogan "I too am a TwitTerrorist."

Online petitions are circulating to demand her release, and the pair's cause has been taken up by human rights groups that call the charges exaggerated. Amnesty International says officials are violating freedom of expression and it blames the panic on the uncertainty many Mexicans feel amid a drug war in which more than 35,000 people have died over the past five years.

"The lack of safety creates an atmosphere of mistrust in which rumors that circulate on social networks are part of people's efforts to protect themselves, since there is very little trustworthy information," Amnesty wrote in a statement on the case.

In violence-wracked cities in the northern state of Tamaulipas, citizens and even authorities have used Twitter and Facebook to warn one another about shootouts.

Anita Vera, Martinez Vera's 71-year-old mother, said her 48-year-old son still lives at her house with his girlfriend. She said he told her that had posted his messages after the panic had already started.

"He told me "Mom, I didn't start any of this, I just transmitted what I was told,'" Vera Martellis said after visiting her son in prison.

"He used the computer, but I swear that my son never wanted to do anybody harm, or start a revolution, like they say he did," said Vera, who ekes out a living selling flowers.

Raul Trejo, an expert on media and violence at the National Autonomous University of Mexico, said the terrorism charge is unwarranted, but described the case as "a very incautious use of Twitter."

He noted that in Mexico, "Twitter has been used by drug traffickers to create panic with false warnings." In one case, a wave of messages about impending violence shut down schools, bars and restaurants in the central city of Cuernavaca last year.

Trejo said Twitter users must learn "not to believe everything, and simply take the Twitter messages as an indication that some (report) is making the rounds."

But the real problem appears to be that governments cannot prevent drug cartel violence or even accurately inform citizens about it. Local news media are often so battered by kidnappings and killings of reporters that, in many states, they are loath to report about it.

"These Twitter users had accounts with a few hundred followers," Trejo noted. "If these lies grew, it is not so much because they propagated them, but because in Veracruz as in most of the rest of the country, there is such a lack of public safety that the public is inclined to believe unconfirmed acts of violence ... The government doesn't make clear what is happening."

Defense attorneys also say their clients were held incommunicado for almost three days, unable to see a lawyer.

It appears one of the most serious sets of charges ever brought for sending or resending Twitter messages.

Tweeter Paul Chambers was fined 385 pounds and ordered to pay 2,000 pounds ($3,225) in prosecution costs last year for tweeting that if northern England's Robin Hood Airport didn't reopen in time for his flight, "I'm blowing the airport sky high!!"

Venezuelan authorities last year charged two people with spreading false information about the country's banking system using Twitter and urging people to pull money out of banks. They could serve nine to 11 years in prison if convicted.

In 2009, a Chinese woman was sentenced to a year in a labor camp for posting a satirical Twitter message about the Japan pavilion at the Shanghai Expo.

Source: http://www.newser.com/article/d9phr5c00/mexicans-divided-on-terrorism-charges-against-twitter-users-facing-possible-30-year-sentences.html



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Glad they're doing this. Some nuts did the exact same thing here in Romania, spreading false rumor thorugh Facebook about children being kidnapped by people who wanted to harvest their organs. These rumors gain popularity every summer, but this particular summer things were worse than ever due to social networking sites.



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I think the guy who posted first on Twitter should be charged , not sure with terrorism but charges should be laid. Also I'm not sure 30 years is justified , the punishment out weighs the crime far too much. I'd say five years tops with a huge fine.

As for the others who re-tweeted. They were simply reporting a story they had read. Sending them to jail is totally immoral as they had no idea the info was false. They were trying to inform people like good citizens!



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Joelcool7 said:

I think the guy who posted first on Twitter should be charged , not sure with terrorism but charges should be laid. Also I'm not sure 30 years is justified , the punishment out weighs the crime far too much. I'd say five years tops with a huge fine.

As for the others who re-tweeted. They were simply reporting a story they had read. Sending them to jail is totally immoral as they had no idea the info was false. They were trying to inform people like good citizens!

He caused large scale chaos and havok. I'm sure that warrants for more than 5 years.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

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Joelcool7 said:

I think the guy who posted first on Twitter should be charged , not sure with terrorism but charges should be laid. Also I'm not sure 30 years is justified , the punishment out weighs the crime far too much. I'd say five years tops with a huge fine.

As for the others who re-tweeted. They were simply reporting a story they had read. Sending them to jail is totally immoral as they had no idea the info was false. They were trying to inform people like good citizens!

He caused large scale chaos and havok. I'm sure that warrants for more than 5 years.


I dunno he probably had no intention of causing so much chaos. Probably didn't realize just how far it would go. I agree he deserves jail time and a very big fine. But I don't think more then four years should be warranted. its like when somebody calls in a bomb threat, they cause extreme chaos but they don't go to jail for 30 years.

Also they should investigate further into why he did what he did, if he intended to cause chaos and destruction then he should be charged differently then if it was a joke gone wrong or just a stupid decision that the user didn't expect to snow ball.

I think 5 years is reasonable for the offence. But I'm not a judge I guess it will be up to the Mexican courts. However in Canada I don't think he would get more then five years. So I don't really believe he should in Mexico either, they are way harsher on light crimes!



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Joelcool7 said:


I dunno he probably had no intention of causing so much chaos. Probably didn't realize just how far it would go. I agree he deserves jail time and a very big fine. But I don't think more then four years should be warranted. its like when somebody calls in a bomb threat, they cause extreme chaos but they don't go to jail for 30 years.

Also they should investigate further into why he did what he did, if he intended to cause chaos and destruction then he should be charged differently then if it was a joke gone wrong or just a stupid decision that the user didn't expect to snow ball.

I think 5 years is reasonable for the offence. But I'm not a judge I guess it will be up to the Mexican courts. However in Canada I don't think he would get more then five years. So I don't really believe he should in Mexico either, they are way harsher on light crimes!

What did he expect would result from this? This isn't a 'light' crime, considering the results of it. When people make jokes like this, they generally do intedn to cause chaos, they're just doing it 'in good humor', rather than 'because they're evil'. The result is still the same though, and so should the punishment.

Something like this happens every year in my country, but due to social networking sites it wasworse than ever today. Someone posted on Facebook that a friend of a friend's child was kidnapped by 'organ snatchers' disguised as ambulance medics, and people in some neighborhoods started throwing stones at ambulances when they arrived. People also attacked individuals who were walking down the street because they 'looked suspicious'. There was general histeria for a few days, and even when the police said all these claims were bogus, people just said that it was a huge consipracy, and the police were in on it. It was horrible!



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

30 years is a bit long, but they should definitely receive a stiff penalty...there's no excuse for doing something like this. No "it was a joke" or "I just was having some fun" or even "How can they possibly do this to me, for re-tweeting a message?"

It's like yelling "Fire" in a crowded place...you can and will be charged for what you say and what follows from that. I don't see this as being any different.



That's only 30 years between the pair- that's some major disruption that they caused there; should be 20 years each imo. Need to make an example of some people to make the lesson sink in

 

Edit: Nope - that's actually potentially 30 years each? That's too much imo- but the earlier point still stands that you can't let them off lightly



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