When did I say they were not new buses?

Point is, previously Clinton and and Bush rented from the same manufacturer (which removes the entire Canada arguement) and the Secret Service completely retrofitted the busses with higher security stuff and other items. Then when the president was done, they removed the stuff and returned the buses.

This time Obama simply bought them so they don't need to remove all the stuff later. Overall cost probably was close to the same.

In the long run, it doesn't really matter and it probably wasn't even his choice. Just something someone decided to do as a potential cost saving measure over the long run as you don't have to remove all the security and other enhancements. They can simply reuse the same buses in the future.

EDIT: Also, your source confirms what I said.

"The vehicle was commissioned by the Secret Service, which has always hired buses for election campaigns and retrofitted them to provide suitable protection for presidents and rival party nominees."

"Each of the new buses will be available to Mr. Obama and the eventual Republican presidential nominee if required through the duration of the 2012 election season."

http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/

Yep same bus company.

In fact before you notice they had their logos all over it because it was a rental and used ONCE. Now they will remain all black with no logos as they are intended to be used accross multiple election cycles and other needs.

Americans like stuff made in America. Especially when it's our tax money that pays for it. It has nothing to do with politics or the quality of the stuff. Americans hate taxes, but even more so we hate seeing our money used for anything that isn't 100% necessary and doesn't 100% benefit the USA. We all would prefer to not pay taxes at all, but since we can't get out of it we look at government spending as wasteful.

when i was watching CNN the other day they said that the difference in these buses and previously used buses is that this bus was purchased and that all the others were only rented then fitted with all the equipment and armor then afterwards everything was taken out and returned.

You're absolutely right.

However, in the long run which is cheaper? The probably high cost of rental and fees added with retrofitting, repainting, decals,.... followed by removal of retrofitting, painting, decals.. etc every 4 years.

OR

Buying two buses at a probable discount, retrofitting ONCE, painting ONCE. NO removal of anything. NO repainting again. NO adding and removal of decals. AND using it for 2 or 3 election cycles.

I think in the long run it was a far smarter decision by the secret service. Plus, outside of the election years, they can be used by the SS for many other things vs acquiring other forms of transport.

All this comes down to is idiotic banter and hate from the right. Same mentality that wanted to crush the government a week ago. Same mentality that fought for years over a stupid birth certificate. Bunch of idiots.

i was talking about Obama and the republicans hins reaching across the aisle. come on don't tell me you havn't seen it?

You said it was the same type of bus too... which it's not even close.

Ah, my apologies. I read your post wrong.

Honestly, the issue is that I can't find any legislation that Obama has ever pushed that was bi-partisan. Clinton had a ton, as well as Bush, but I cannot think of a single thing Obama has tried to pass that was either bi-partisan, or presented as such.

yep thats my other point.

its Rumored and mostly siad in the ews but republicans block a lot of Obamas agendas with so called legislative tactic's, and i i'll say its true cause it made Dem's look weak and i beleive thats how Republicans got the congress back.