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And they probably never will be, which is unfortunate.
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The Fury said:
Most are because we never get the same story from the same people. A man was shot that is confirmed and it was confirmed that the police shot him. What isn't confirmed is whether he was in the poisition to fire but didn't or even holding a gun at the time, although it's very likely he was in possession of a gun. I highly doubt that he'd ever be in custody and handcuffed and then shot, that's just bullcrap. The girl provoked the police in a peaceful protest turning it into something else. She started this whole thing in otherwords. I doubt police attacked and beat her knowing fully it was a 16 year old girl, we don't know the full story . The article says she was knocked to the ground (which could be no more then a push) and then some witness claims she was beaten.
Eitherway, neither of these instances should have caused what we have seen which is mindless fucktards destroying lives and homes for no good reason. This isn't the blame of the government, it's not the police, it's not even their parents (as many are old enough to know better), it's dicks being dicks. |
Bolded 1: I don't know what the tensions are like in London, but in the U.S., this happens too often (More than once is too often imo).
Bolded 2 & 3: You're stating that the full story isn't known, but you seem to be latching on to the parts that you want to believe. Though you doubt it could happen, it's possible, especially if tensions were high. This also happens in the U.S. a lot.
You Last paragraph: No, neither situations warrant a riot, especially when details aren't fully known. The riots were sparked by opportunists searching for a reason to cause mayhem.
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adriane23 said:
Bolded 1: I don't know what the tensions are like in London, but in the U.S., this happens too often (More than once is too often imo). Bolded 2 & 3: You're stating that the full story isn't known, but you seem to be latching on to the parts that you want to believe. Though you doubt it could happen, it's possible, especially if tensions were high. This also happens in the U.S. a lot. You Last paragraph: No, neither situations warrant a riot, especially when details aren't fully known. The riots were sparked by opportunists searching for a reason to cause mayhem. |
1) In the UK, I would say this is as good as impossible, our police are complete pussies.
2) Once again, very unlikely, or the story has been blown out of proportion.
3) Very true.
| Seece said: Attempting to burn down a Childrens Hospitol? yeah, kill them (the rioters.) All of them. |
...If only.
adriane23 said:
Bolded 1: I don't know what the tensions are like in London, but in the U.S., this happens too often (More than once is too often imo). Bolded 2 & 3: You're stating that the full story isn't known, but you seem to be latching on to the parts that you want to believe. Though you doubt it could happen, it's possible, especially if tensions were high. This also happens in the U.S. a lot. You Last paragraph: No, neither situations warrant a riot, especially when details aren't fully known. The riots were sparked by opportunists searching for a reason to cause mayhem. |
1) As Brendude, in the UK it's nigh on impossible. We aren't the US, when it comes to our crimes and handling them.
2) I'm latching onto bits I believe, yes, I believe the police shot a guy when they might have not needed to, I believe in a peaceful riot a person provoked the police and they reacted, some of the protestors reacted far worse after. The story makes out like the police and the (violent) people protesting knew this person was a 16 year old girl and the police reacted by beating her with battons, I don't believe that. But I wasn't there, I have to go on news reports. I may be baised but as a law-abiding citizen, I'm going to be bias towards the people who have tried to protect us for the last 5 nights, while getting attacked and criticised for it.
Another murder this morning, a man trying to put out flames was attacked by rioters. While Police got to him to save him, the murderers still attacked the police.
Hmm, pie.
adriane23 said:
Bolded 1: I don't know what the tensions are like in London, but in the U.S., this happens too often (More than once is too often imo). Bolded 2 & 3: You're stating that the full story isn't known, but you seem to be latching on to the parts that you want to believe. Though you doubt it could happen, it's possible, especially if tensions were high. This also happens in the U.S. a lot. You Last paragraph: No, neither situations warrant a riot, especially when details aren't fully known. The riots were sparked by opportunists searching for a reason to cause mayhem. |
This happens in the US alot? No it doesn't. I have never read a story of someone who was handcuffed being shot by police. PLease enlightne me.
16 year old girls get beat by riot plice a lot in the US? Again please show me this.
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16 year old girls get beat by riot plice a lot in the US? Again please show me this. |
For the first, here are a few:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/15/MNJE15A6O2.DTL
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/4909076/las-vegas-metro-police-shoot-and-kill-handcuffed-teen
For the second, I don't mean that 16 year old girls are often beaten by police, sorry for not being more clear on this. Teens in general are subject to police brutality, and if you widen the scope to adults, police brutality is even greater. Below are a few (just teens) that happened within the last couple years.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/caught-tape-teen-beaten-houston-police/story?id=12834297
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-07-12/news/29785422_1_patrol-officers-nypd-cops-police-officers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/24/jordan-miles-teen-violini_n_434772.html
Incidents like these are caused when law enforcement don't follow procedure. Police are people just like you and me, they can become stressed, have bad days, and are capable of poor judgement. I think the London riots largely stemmed from a disconnect between impoverished communities and law enforcement. For example, when the L.A. riots happened in 1992, it was because the beating of Rodney King in 1991 was caught on videotape and people thought they were finally going to get justice for something that happens a lot in L.A. and the Bay area. The officers were acquitted and that's what caused the riots.
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adriane23 said:
For the first, here are a few: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/15/MNJE15A6O2.DTL http://www.8newsnow.com/story/4909076/las-vegas-metro-police-shoot-and-kill-handcuffed-teen
For the second, I don't mean that 16 year old girls are often beaten by police, sorry for not being more clear on this. Teens in general are subject to police brutality, and if you widen the scope to adults, police brutality is even greater. Below are a few (just teens) that happened within the last couple years. http://abcnews.go.com/US/caught-tape-teen-beaten-houston-police/story?id=12834297 http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-07-12/news/29785422_1_patrol-officers-nypd-cops-police-officers http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/24/jordan-miles-teen-violini_n_434772.html Incidents like these are caused when law enforcement don't follow procedure. Police are people just like you and me, they can become stressed, have bad days, and are capable of poor judgement. I think the London riots largely stemmed from a disconnect between impoverished communities and law enforcement. For example, when the L.A. riots happened in 1992, it was because the beating of Rodney King in 1991 was caught on videotape and people thought they were finally going to get justice for something that happens a lot in L.A. and the Bay area. The officers were acquitted and that's what caused the riots. |
You do know there are like... five times the people in the USA then there is the UK right?
To suggest it happens way more in the US you'd have to produce waaay more stories in a shorter timeframe.
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