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Most influential myth for you?

Greek! 41 56.94%
 
Roman! 3 4.17%
 
Norse! 10 13.89%
 
Other myths 13 18.06%
 
No1currs 1 1.39%
 
See results. 4 5.56%
 
Total:72

Christian mythology, as it influenced both capitalist and communist mythology.



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Seece said:
Is it fair to say the Romans influenced homosexuality, given well you know, it's a 'choice' n all

The greeks were the first (as far as we know) truly open minded society regarding homosexuality. Actually, thery were probably more open minded than we are today. The Romans undid that somewhat (or totally after the arrival of christianity).

The greeks even had gay-only battalions. Ok, that may be a bit of a segregation, but I'm guessing the soldiers had fun after battle (they were very open about sex too, so they were the experts of one night stands).



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I would say Christianity.

To those that would say the difference between mythology and religion is faith and that religion requires faith while mythology doesn't, I would reply that people that believed in Thor, Zeus, et al also had faith in them until their belief systems, much as Christianty has been, were disproven.

Well, actually most of the people that held onto those earlier religious belief systems actually did so until the Christians forced them to convert at pain of being burnt alive which is why I would say that Christianity (and the Judaeo-Egyptian traditions that it grew out of) has been the most influential mythology.

Whether this post will result in some religious debate as someone above said it would is really up to the true believers and their actions as I'm just stating the facts. If you want a scholarly text that also says Christianity is a mythology check out J. G. Frazier's The Golden Bough and Richard Dawkins' statement to the effect that everyone is an atheist it's just that the people that are commonly known as atheists todat simply reject one more mythological god than the Christians whom reject earlier mythological gods like Thor, Zeus, and Isis.



You cant disprove religions its impossible that what makes it unscientific. In science everything can be disproven. Thats the difference between Religion/Mythos and Science. God(s) cant be disproven explain to me how the greek mythos was disproven ? Everything that happened with Zeus Odysseus Jesus Buddah Kali or who ever could have happened. How do you want to disprove it ? How do you want to disprove that I am riding a flying whale right now while typing in my phone this message ? Its a whale that only comes to me when noone is around and turns invisible and has no tangible mass only I can touch it. Also he warps time that means if i said i just flew with him over the oceans but you saw me sitting in my car it was just because you couldnt percieve it but it really happened you cant disprove it. You also cant disprove dragons, witches, cyclopes, gods, vampires, werepanthers and what not.



Netyaroze said:
You cant disprove religions its impossible that what makes it unscientific. In science everything can be disproven. Thats the difference between Religion/Mythos and Science. God(s) cant be disproven explain to me how the greek mythos was disproven ? Everything that happened with Zeus Odysseus Jesus Buddah Kali or who ever could have happened. How do you want to disprove it ? How do you want to disprove that I am riding a flying whale right now while typing in my phone this message ? Its a whale that only comes to me when noone is around and turns invisible and has no tangible mass only I can touch it. Also he warps time that means if i said i just flew with him over the oceans but you saw me sitting in my car it was just because you couldnt percieve it but it really happened you cant disprove it. You also cant disprove dragons, witches, cyclopes, gods, vampires, werepanthers and what not.


So, in other words you believe everything is real.  Well, what if I believe it's a warm sunny day outside, but all the scientific measurements say it's 10 below zero and snowing.  Should everybody have to wear wicked weasel bikinis because I believe it's 80 degrees out and sunny?

 

What if you have two competing religions and the tenets of one is that everybody that follows the other is wrong and should be burnt alive?  Should that be allowed because the first holy book says it's the proper action to pursue?

 

Religion does make empirical claims about such things as the age of the earth or how humans came to be the way they are.  If that conflicts with what is really measurable or scientifically agreed upon about the world, then it should lessen that religion's standing as an accurate measurement of reality and  shouldn't be allowed to interfere with how others live their lives.  



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@Edhieron


No I dont believe everything is real what I tried to explain was the basic idea behind Science thats how Scientist work they make a claim that can be disproven or have evidence that its most likely true. An Idea/Concept that CANT be disproven is not a scientific claim like religion/gods etc you cant disprove it because they dont make statements which can be disproved.

If you believe its sunny and 35 degrees celsius outside but its cold you made a scientific statement that can be disproven. Since you accepted degrees are existing.

But Religons dont accept the most basic thing causality. They have god. With god you can explain everything and its impossible to disprove it.

If religions say "look earth is 10000 years old" and you say "but measurements clearly say its not" they say "god just wants to test the faith of humanity so he made it look older"

How do you want to disprove this ? Evolution was also a test of god he hid bones to test peoples faith. Zeus and the other gods are just tired of humanity and dont interact with them anymore etc.

You CANT disprove God its impossible gods are singularitys they are almighty.

Science can just say it doesnt appear to be true but we cant disprove it .

And dont jump to conclusions just because something cant be disproven doesnt mean it s true. It just means there is no way to rule it out.

Wikiipedia is your friend: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability



Netyaroze said:
@Edhieron


No I dont believe everything is real what I tried to explain was the basic idea behind Science thats how Scientist work they make a claim that can be disproven or have evidence that its most likely true. An Idea/Concept that CANT be disproven is not a scientific claim like religion/gods etc you cant disprove it because they dont make statements which can be disproved.

If you believe its sunny and 35 degrees celsius outside but its cold you made a scientific statement that can be disproven. Since you accepted degrees are existing.

But Religons dont accept the most basic thing causality. They have god. With god you can explain everything and its impossible to disprove it.

If religions say "look earth is 10000 years old" and you say "but measurements clearly say its not" they say "god just wants to test the faith of humanity so he made it look older"

How do you want to disprove this ? Evolution was also a test of god he hid bones to test peoples faith. Zeus and the other gods are just tired of humanity and dont interact with them anymore etc.

You CANT disprove God its impossible gods are singularitys they are almighty.

Science can just say it doesnt appear to be true but we cant disprove it .

And dont jump to conclusions just because something cant be disproven doesnt mean it s true. It just means there is no way to rule it out.

Wikiipedia is your friend: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability


However, the earth has been demonstrated to be far older than 6,000 years old which is what religion claims its age to be and the earth has been disproven to not be the center of the universe which is what religion claimed it to be, and the Torah has been shown to have not been written by Moses the individual that religion claims to have written them, and Jesus didn't come back in 67 CE or 1000 CE or 2,000 CE which is when the religious claimed he would return (yeah, even if they set the system up so they could always move the goal posts on that.  There is evidence that his bone chips and ashes are in a crypt in the Jerusalem Museum, it's disputed but it's also the only hard evidence for his existence imho, quite different from having an empty tomb at any rate).

When something makes a plethora of claims and they all turn out to be wrong, it's not sound logical reasoning to put much stake in its claims.

I think Hume said when you have many competing theories as to how something extrordinary occured, then it's the simplest solution that most often turns out to be right.  And when you look at how religions many claims have faired in the face of reliable data, then the best solution seems to be that religion is all bs rather than all things claimed by all religions are true.



What you are talking about is occams razor : (2) Occam?s Razoris the scientific principle that the simpler of two explanations is correct uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Occam's_Razor_(blade)

"When something makes a plethora of claims and they all turn out to be wrong, it's not sound logical reasoning to put much stake in its claims."

I never said that religon is logical its actually the opposite of logical its emotional and as I said causality is not important for religion. Things just happen without logic its gods work. its a completly different view of the world and has not much to do with scientific logic it has its own logic you cant understand if you dont believe. People just feel it must be right even though it makes no sense.

BTW: You do realize I am not religious ?



Netyaroze said:
What you are talking about is occams razor : (2) Occam?s Razoris the scientific principle that the simpler of two explanations is correct uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Occam's_Razor_(blade)

"When something makes a plethora of claims and they all turn out to be wrong, it's not sound logical reasoning to put much stake in its claims."

I never said that religon is logical its actually the opposite of logical its emotional and as I said causality is not important for religion. Things just happen without logic its gods work. its a completly different view of the world and has not much to do with scientific logic it has its own logic you cant understand if you dont believe. People just feel it must be right even though it makes no sense.

BTW: You do realize I am not religious ?


So you think gays should be denied the right to get married simply because the Bible says it's wrong and we should deny them this right even though empirical evidence says it's wrong.  It's an interesting philosophical notion you've got there but how does it aplly to creating the best possible world for the most amount of people when all of the things that they believe are in conflict?  I think the kind of notion you're talking about here connect with Matthew Alper's theories that people mainly opt to believe in irrational things like god because they're afraid of death and that they're actually hardwired to do this genetically.  http://www.godpart.com