sapphi_snake said:
You disgust me. Less so than your prime minister. |
and you make me want to throw up (more so from the abortion thing)
Do you approve your president/prime minister? | |||
| Yes | 36 | 23.08% | |
| No | 103 | 66.03% | |
| Not sure | 14 | 8.97% | |
| Total: | 153 | ||
sapphi_snake said:
You disgust me. Less so than your prime minister. |
and you make me want to throw up (more so from the abortion thing)
sapphi_snake said:
It's debatable whether you can consider them children yet. |
how is it debatable?
why is it that a women (and her "doctor") can kill her unborn at any time she wants may it be 1 week or 38 weeks into pregnancy. but when another person does the same, its murder. taek scott perterson for example he drowned his pregnant wife, got charged for double murder, if the child isnt a child, why did he get charged for to murders.
In Belgium we have currently 59 ministers. That's right. My country of -/+ 10 million has 1 prime minister, 48 ministers and 10 State Secretaries in total.
And not one is worth a damn. So, no!
In the wilderness we go alone with our new knowledge and strength.
| osamanobama said: how is it debatable? why is it that a women (and her "doctor") can kill her unborn at any time she wants may it be 1 week or 38 weeks into pregnancy. but when another person does the same, its murder. taek scott perterson for example he drowned his pregnant wife, got charged for double murder, if the child isnt a child, why did he get charged for to murders. |
What do you mean 'when another person does the same'? Only women can terminate pregnancies, and killing an actual human being is not the same as terminating a pregancy. Plus, there are actual situations when people murder others, and recieve no punishment. Soldiers are a prime example.
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osamanobama said:
how is it debatable? why is it that a women (and her "doctor") can kill her unborn at any time she wants may it be 1 week or 38 weeks into pregnancy. but when another person does the same, its murder. taek scott perterson for example he drowned his pregnant wife, got charged for double murder, if the child isnt a child, why did he get charged for to murders. |
well...actually i would agree its debatable whether you could classify them as being a "child". certainly once they are formed they become a human, but whether they are a "child" or even a "person" isnt quite so clear.
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sapphi_snake said:
What do you mean 'when another person does the same'? Only women can terminate pregnancies, and killing an actual human being is not the same as terminating a pregancy. Plus, there are actual situations when people murder others, and recieve no punishment. Soldiers are a prime example. |
Soldiers kill to defend their country and people. Its different
Player1x3 said:
Soldiers kill to defend their country and people. Its different |
Not really. You must be terribly naive to think that 'soldiers kill to defend their country and people'. Heck, there are so manu examples that prove otherwise... such as Iraq.
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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"
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sapphi_snake said:
What do you mean 'when another person does the same'? Only women can terminate pregnancies, and killing an actual human being is not the same as terminating a pregancy. Plus, there are actual situations when people murder others, and recieve no punishment. Soldiers are a prime example. |
why does only a women get to choose, if she can terminate the pregnacy, and its not murder then neither is some other person terminating her pregnacy murder. you cant have it both ways, it cant be a non human when the mother does, and be a human when someone else does.
also assuming you are being serious (for a logical person, and non extremest person i would know they were joking, but knowing how radical you are..) killing in wars have been ruled time and time again to not be murder, if you think it is, then you need clinical help, and have a group of terrorist take over you country, and you better condemn anyone that tries to kill them.
also how could all those allied soldiers murder so many nazi, we should retroactively put everyone up on trial so justice can be served to those nazi families.
is it you goal to be the most extremist person in existance, you probably pretty close to you goal, likey in 2nd percentile
| osamanobama said: why does only a women get to choose, if she can terminate the pregnacy, and its not murder then neither is some other person terminating her pregnacy murder. you cant have it both ways, it cant be a non human when the mother does, and be a human when someone else does. also assuming you are being serious (for a logical person, and non extremest person i would know they were joking, but knowing how radical you are..) killing in wars have been ruled time and time again to not be murder, if you think it is, then you need clinical help, and have a group of terrorist take over you country, and you better condemn anyone that tries to kill them. also how could all those allied soldiers murder so many nazi, we should retroactively put everyone up on trial so justice can be served to those nazi families. is it you goal to be the most extremist person in existance, you probably pretty close to you goal, likey in 2nd percentile |
First of all, this off topic rant is getting even more off topic.
Second of all, please focus on a single conflict. We were talking about the Iraq war.
and have a group of terrorist take over you country
See what happens when you watch too much Fox News?
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| Kantor said: My Prime Minister is David Cameron, so no, not really. He lives his life in absolute terror of the left wing media and British voters, neither of whom are the slightest bit threatening. The moment anybody voices opposition to anything he says, he leaps backwards and cancels all of his plans. I have no doubt that he is a better Prime Minister than Miliband (socialist moron with no policies) or Clegg (opportunist, again with no real policies other than "do what people like at the moment" would, but there are far better choices within the Conservative party itself. Speaking of opposition, whenever the Opposition brings up a problem, he sticks his fingers in his ears and says "YEAH BUT LABOUR HAD 13 YEARS TO FIX THAT" and occasionally lists meaningless achievements like reduced red tape and "improved competition". I get the impression that Cameron is a very intelligent man who knows what this country needs. That becomes clear when you hear him speak to his own party. The trouble is, he seems to think something is wrong with economic liberalism (fiscal conservatism). He refuses to take a strong line against benefit cheats. He speaks of the NHS as this heavenly service that can do no wrong. If he would just realise that the reason he didn't win a majority isn't that traditional Tory policies are unpopular, but because Labour have spend decades trying to convince people of that, and tried to explain why his actions don't amount to fascism, then he would be one of the best Prime Ministers this country has had for a long time. |
He also refuses to take a strong line against the tens of billions of lost tax revenue caused by tax loopholes and off-shore bank accounts, far greater than what is lost through benefit cheats.
He even hired Andy Coulson (as director of communications) who was editor of News of the World while the hacking scandal first began to surface (and then resigned because of it) and still hired him with a salary of £140,000 to boot! A good trait of any PM should be a good judge of character and in this case the PM really failed especially in light of what was already well known publically.
Not sure where you are getting the scary left wing media from. True some of the right wing press have taken a battering (News International who own The Times and The Sun) due to the illegal phone hacking scandal and deservedly so. But there's still the Daily (hate) Mail, Daily Telegraph, Daily Express and the rag Daily Star all of which are consistently right wing and not tainted by the phone hacking scandal. And let's not forget the part the right wing press played in keeping Labour out of power during the 80's.
You see there is a very good reason Cameron won't implement fiscal conservative policies and it's not really because of opposition from the left. Because these days we live in a Corporate world who do not believe in such sensible ideas. And they are the ones who fund our politicians political campaigns and wield enormous influence in politics. Do you really think our construction idustry would be alive today if it wasn't for the state sector throwing taxpayers money at them like the PFI BSF projects and the Olympics. Or how about our banks that needed to be rescued to the tune of over a trillion pounds. That's like 15 odd years worth of NHS budget spent in less than two years. Oh and those bankers are still getting their millions of pounds worth of bonuses while we are asking our teachers and nurses to rip up their contract and take less pay, work longer and reduce their pension pay. These are the workers who live very normal lives and are teaching our children the tools to be successful in life and the business sector expects this service from the State. One things for sure, they not going to pay for one's education when people are old enough to work.
We live in a fake debt ridden economy that has come crashing down. I hope we don't make the same mistake twice for the sake of growth based on easy credit.