Player1x3 said:
Mr Khan said:
I know of some of the counter-claims to which you will likely attest, but any idea of an "ancient historical claim," is reasonably bogus, otherwise the Turks could make a claim to come and take you all over again, or the Greeks restoring the laws of ancient Byzantium. Should Russia annex Ukraine, merely because Kiev is a foundational center to historical Russian civilization? Should the Israelis take back the Sinai peninsula, to hold the mountain where God gave the commandments to Moses? What matters are the will of the residents of a given geographical region, and so long as it is shown that they would found a responsible state (that is to say one that would respect the human rights of all its residents and respect its neighbors and not be a geopolitical rabble-rouser), then they should get what they desire.
So long as Kosovo makes guarantees to respect the rights of its Serbian minority, they should in turn have the right to their freedom, as so willed by self-determination
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What the hell are you talking about. Turks conquerd Balkans in 15th century and they were defetaed in 19th cenutry. Byzantium was actually Roman eastern empire also won by violence. Serbs have ihnibitaded Kosovo in 7th century AD, way before Albanians even came to Balkans. Learn some propper history before starting an argument like that.Learn the difference between violent conquest and being the first to inhibitate the area. And fun fact, even before the Turks came serbian empire not only owned Kosovo but everything from Belgrade Frotress in the norht to the greek island of Crete to the south So we should own all tht right? And you know that MOST OF houses, firms and institutions in norhtern and middle Kosovo were OWNE BY SERBS before the war. You are not aware of ethnical cleansing albanians comitte during and beore the war, right? Not to mention, THEY DONT GIVE 2 SHITS ABOUT serbian population on the north. Just 3 days ago, they banned ALL goods (stuf like food and water=) coming to Serbs from Serbia. In fact, the banned ALL merchenides coming from Serbia for Serbs. Thats why we burned thier border stations and killed one of thier policeman and wounded 8 and took over.
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To my knowledge, the Albanians inhabited the region long before anyone else did, which is why they're such an ethnically unique people, with a language that doesn't even fall into any of the major language groups, and Wikipedia seems to back me up here now that i checked, though Wiki also sorta backs what you said, that they didn't emerge until around the 15th century as a distinct people, but were descended from the paleo-Balkan peoples, thus probably closely related to the Dorian Greeks, and native to the area long before the Slavs began to show up from out of the east. What would you say of the Hungarians, who probably inhabited Vojvodina before the Serbs took it away from them? The Slavs had to arrive out of somewhere, and there had to be a native people that they displaced in their time.
Your argument regarding infrastucture is fallacious, as if that argument were to hold, then Africa should just default back to Europe. Better-endowed peoples create infrastructure in less well-endowed areas (and thus end up owning that infrastructure that they made), but that has given them little claim to ownership historically
Your latter claim of Albanian atrocities is the most legitimate here. If these claims are true than Kosovo certainly shouldn't be getting a free ride from the West, and this tends to happens to countries we favor, where we look the other way on their sins in their ethnic disputes (my pet peeve has always been how we treat the Georgians like a bunch of saints, despite what they do to the Abkhazians/Ossetians, and don't even get me started on Israel), and should be amended. That is why i have maintained in my argument that Kosovo's right to freedom hinges on its ability to act responsibly as a free state, which includes protection of the Serbian minorities who still legitimately live there
