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Would The Xbox Brand Be More Successful Without The Live Fee

Yes 80 42.11%
 
No 83 43.68%
 
See results.. 27 14.21%
 
Total:190

no.

Live simply has more features, more speed, more robust an less issues. Also it has more digital films and music than any other consoles online service. Its definately more online future proof than any other.

Its easy to see the fee is a very good thing in comparison to the free services. Its also an unoticeable amount of money. Most you will ever pay is £40/year. People spend that on petrol in 2 weeks in many cases. or cigarettes inn 2 weeks.



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Dodece said:
I actually committed blasphemy, and voted a resounding yes. I will further compound my blasphemy by saying that gold is overpriced crap. This isn't a question of whether there is a place for subscription services. The question is why Microsoft doesn't actually provide content to justify the fee they are charging. Not only does the fee discourage any number of potential customers. They are charging for something that is actually free on any personal computer, or portable internet enabled device. The service is both superfluous, and nothing less then highway robbery. Bottom line it has a negative impact on the image.

I am calling the argument that Live is good to be nothing less then complete bullshit. Microsoft is not providing any content at all. Every service offered through Live is already an existing service that was already free to access elsewhere. Playing online was always free prior to this generation, and it isn't as if Microsoft has dedicated game servers up and running. No it is left up to the players hardware to serve as a host.

Live is just a shiny advertisement for games, and a overpriced portal to services that are free, or you have to pay for already. Don't give me this crap it is worth all they charge. I was intent on not resubscribing early this year. No I was not keen on paying for jack shit. The only way Microsoft got my jaded ass back was to bribe me with a free retail game. Only then did the price become less reprehensible.

That should tell you guys something. Microsoft had to bribe me with a forty dollar game before I would pony up for another year. They wouldn't be doing that if it weren't necessary. More and more people are becoming very jaded about what Microsoft is charging, and are walking away from the service. Which is only a short step form switching brands.

Microsoft better get its head out of its ass, and start to contrive real content. This overpriced portal, and shitty online gaming experience is nowhere near worth what they are charging. When the owners of your console are turning their backs. You can bet your ass they are not going to be advocating your product. Promotional freebies of such high cost cannot be all that practical either. Right now I have my expectations raised. I will expect to get something of equal value early next year, and unless I get that they and I will be right back where we started out this year. Me holding out on them until they bribe me with something I cannot ignore.

Anyway if Microsoft doesn't intend to expand the service with original content then they are probably better off dropping the fee altogether. The fee drives consumers away, and with nothing actually up for sale it isn't bringing consumers onto the platform. Right now it is doing no good, and a lot of harm. All I am saying is be one or the other. Either be worth the price being charged, or abandon the fee altogether. There is nothing worse the being totally overpriced.

You say they are walking away? 

Explain how their Live revenue is up 40% on last year?

And how they have even a bigger active user count now over PS3 than 2 years ago?

And as for original content. MS has and releases more original content than any other console service. Is faster, smoother and doesnt take 2 hours t update. 



if live was free i wouldn't have disconnected my 360 from my tv some 3-4 years ago and replaced it with a ps3.



if live was free i wouldn't have disconnected my 360 from my tv some 3-4 years ago and replaced it with a ps3. i did the math, it was cheaper to buy a ps3 then to buy a live subscription over the life of the console.



Personally I say yes. I would buy more games for the 360 instead of the ps3. And it might have stayed my preferred console, meaning I would have bought a slim upgrade.
I had live for a year then cancelled it, since I didn't use it all that much. Since then I buy all multiplatform games on ps3 in case I want to try the online features. I don't care much about fps online, and I'm not going to pay live fees just for Forza.



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kitler53 said:
if live was free i wouldn't have disconnected my 360 from my tv some 3-4 years ago and replaced it with a ps3. i did the math, it was cheaper to buy a ps3 then to buy a live subscription over the life of the console.

i guse e have the same accountant, but mine told me 2 yrs earlyer lol.



What Kowen and BenVTrigger said sums up my thoughts rather nicely..which is a resounding no!



selnor said:
Dodece said:
I actually committed blasphemy, and voted a resounding yes. I will further compound my blasphemy by saying that gold is overpriced crap. This isn't a question of whether there is a place for subscription services. The question is why Microsoft doesn't actually provide content to justify the fee they are charging. Not only does the fee discourage any number of potential customers. They are charging for something that is actually free on any personal computer, or portable internet enabled device. The service is both superfluous, and nothing less then highway robbery. Bottom line it has a negative impact on the image.

I am calling the argument that Live is good to be nothing less then complete bullshit. Microsoft is not providing any content at all. Every service offered through Live is already an existing service that was already free to access elsewhere. Playing online was always free prior to this generation, and it isn't as if Microsoft has dedicated game servers up and running. No it is left up to the players hardware to serve as a host.

Live is just a shiny advertisement for games, and a overpriced portal to services that are free, or you have to pay for already. Don't give me this crap it is worth all they charge. I was intent on not resubscribing early this year. No I was not keen on paying for jack shit. The only way Microsoft got my jaded ass back was to bribe me with a free retail game. Only then did the price become less reprehensible.

That should tell you guys something. Microsoft had to bribe me with a forty dollar game before I would pony up for another year. They wouldn't be doing that if it weren't necessary. More and more people are becoming very jaded about what Microsoft is charging, and are walking away from the service. Which is only a short step form switching brands.

Microsoft better get its head out of its ass, and start to contrive real content. This overpriced portal, and shitty online gaming experience is nowhere near worth what they are charging. When the owners of your console are turning their backs. You can bet your ass they are not going to be advocating your product. Promotional freebies of such high cost cannot be all that practical either. Right now I have my expectations raised. I will expect to get something of equal value early next year, and unless I get that they and I will be right back where we started out this year. Me holding out on them until they bribe me with something I cannot ignore.

Anyway if Microsoft doesn't intend to expand the service with original content then they are probably better off dropping the fee altogether. The fee drives consumers away, and with nothing actually up for sale it isn't bringing consumers onto the platform. Right now it is doing no good, and a lot of harm. All I am saying is be one or the other. Either be worth the price being charged, or abandon the fee altogether. There is nothing worse the being totally overpriced.

You say they are walking away? 

Explain how their Live revenue is up 40% on last year?

And how they have even a bigger active user count now over PS3 than 2 years ago?

And as for original content. MS has and releases more original content than any other console service. Is faster, smoother and doesnt take 2 hours t update. 

can you explain why is ps3 outselling xbox everyweek???? from 2009??? and how is xbox active user biggger



kickazz113 said:
selnor said:
Dodece said:
I actually committed blasphemy, and voted a resounding yes. I will further compound my blasphemy by saying that gold is overpriced crap. This isn't a question of whether there is a place for subscription services. The question is why Microsoft doesn't actually provide content to justify the fee they are charging. Not only does the fee discourage any number of potential customers. They are charging for something that is actually free on any personal computer, or portable internet enabled device. The service is both superfluous, and nothing less then highway robbery. Bottom line it has a negative impact on the image.

I am calling the argument that Live is good to be nothing less then complete bullshit. Microsoft is not providing any content at all. Every service offered through Live is already an existing service that was already free to access elsewhere. Playing online was always free prior to this generation, and it isn't as if Microsoft has dedicated game servers up and running. No it is left up to the players hardware to serve as a host.

Live is just a shiny advertisement for games, and a overpriced portal to services that are free, or you have to pay for already. Don't give me this crap it is worth all they charge. I was intent on not resubscribing early this year. No I was not keen on paying for jack shit. The only way Microsoft got my jaded ass back was to bribe me with a free retail game. Only then did the price become less reprehensible.

That should tell you guys something. Microsoft had to bribe me with a forty dollar game before I would pony up for another year. They wouldn't be doing that if it weren't necessary. More and more people are becoming very jaded about what Microsoft is charging, and are walking away from the service. Which is only a short step form switching brands.

Microsoft better get its head out of its ass, and start to contrive real content. This overpriced portal, and shitty online gaming experience is nowhere near worth what they are charging. When the owners of your console are turning their backs. You can bet your ass they are not going to be advocating your product. Promotional freebies of such high cost cannot be all that practical either. Right now I have my expectations raised. I will expect to get something of equal value early next year, and unless I get that they and I will be right back where we started out this year. Me holding out on them until they bribe me with something I cannot ignore.

Anyway if Microsoft doesn't intend to expand the service with original content then they are probably better off dropping the fee altogether. The fee drives consumers away, and with nothing actually up for sale it isn't bringing consumers onto the platform. Right now it is doing no good, and a lot of harm. All I am saying is be one or the other. Either be worth the price being charged, or abandon the fee altogether. There is nothing worse the being totally overpriced.

You say they are walking away? 

Explain how their Live revenue is up 40% on last year?

And how they have even a bigger active user count now over PS3 than 2 years ago?

And as for original content. MS has and releases more original content than any other console service. Is faster, smoother and doesnt take 2 hours t update. 

can you explain why is ps3 outselling xbox everyweek???? from 2009??? and how is xbox active user biggger

Sales means nothing.

Japan is th only reason PS3 beats 360 for a start. But thats another topic.

2nd Active user is how many players actively play online each month. Not how many accounts as some may have registered accounts but dont use them actively. 360 has alot more active players online than PS3.

And Live Revenue is growing not decreasing. meaning people are rebuying gold more than they are moving away.

Comprende?