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JEMC on 14 July 2011
drkohler said:
JEMC said:

Surely you are right, I assumed that both chips had something in common as I read that IBM used some of the knowledge they gained when developing the Cell to develop the chip of the xbox360.

My bad.

Wow.. logic is not your friend, is it? Considering the XBox360 appeared over a year before the PS3, it is pretty obvious the development cycles were at least running in parallel. More likely Sony cut off the multicores from the IBM design line (that ended in the 360) to make room for the SPUs..

Logic may not be my friend, yet you say "development cycles were at least running in parallel", so ideas used in the Cell development could also be used for the xbox360 chip.

Thank God you are so logical!



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ithis on 15 July 2011
JEMC said:
drkohler said:
JEMC said:

Surely you are right, I assumed that both chips had something in common as I read that IBM used some of the knowledge they gained when developing the Cell to develop the chip of the xbox360.

My bad.

Wow.. logic is not your friend, is it? Considering the XBox360 appeared over a year before the PS3, it is pretty obvious the development cycles were at least running in parallel. More likely Sony cut off the multicores from the IBM design line (that ended in the 360) to make room for the SPUs..

Logic may not be my friend, yet you say "development cycles were at least running in parallel", so ideas used in the Cell development could also be used for the xbox360 chip.

Thank God you are so logical!

Use wikipedia, it usually knows stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon_(processor)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(microprocessor)#Power_Processor_Element_.28PPE.29 read this and the next paragraph. That's what they have in comon.



JEMC on 15 July 2011
ithis said:

Use wikipedia, it usually knows stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon_(processor)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(microprocessor)#Power_Processor_Element_.28PPE.29 read this and the next paragraph. That's what they have in comon.

Thanks for those links.

If I read this right, a Cell chip has one PPE and several SPEs and the chip that IBM developed for the xbox360 has 3 cores which are based on a slightly modified version of the PPEs used in the Cell chip.

That's it, right?



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darkknightkryta on 15 July 2011
JEMC said:
ithis said:

Use wikipedia, it usually knows stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon_(processor)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(microprocessor)#Power_Processor_Element_.28PPE.29 read this and the next paragraph. That's what they have in comon.

Thanks for those links.

If I read this right, a Cell chip has one PPE and several SPEs and the chip that IBM developed for the xbox360 has 3 cores which are based on a slightly modified version of the PPEs used in the Cell chip.

That's it, right?

That is correct.



JEMC on 15 July 2011
darkknightkryta said:
JEMC said:
ithis said:

Use wikipedia, it usually knows stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon_(processor)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(microprocessor)#Power_Processor_Element_.28PPE.29 read this and the next paragraph. That's what they have in comon.

Thanks for those links.

If I read this right, a Cell chip has one PPE and several SPEs and the chip that IBM developed for the xbox360 has 3 cores which are based on a slightly modified version of the PPEs used in the Cell chip.

That's it, right?

That is correct.

Then, saying that the CPU of the xbox360 is based on the Cell chip is true!



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

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darkknightkryta on 15 July 2011
JEMC said:
darkknightkryta said:
JEMC said:
ithis said:

Use wikipedia, it usually knows stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon_(processor)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(microprocessor)#Power_Processor_Element_.28PPE.29 read this and the next paragraph. That's what they have in comon.

Thanks for those links.

If I read this right, a Cell chip has one PPE and several SPEs and the chip that IBM developed for the xbox360 has 3 cores which are based on a slightly modified version of the PPEs used in the Cell chip.

That's it, right?

That is correct.

Then, saying that the CPU of the xbox360 is based on the Cell chip is true!

Short answer yes, long answer no.



JEMC on 15 July 2011
darkknightkryta said:
JEMC said:
darkknightkryta said:

That is correct.

Then, saying that the CPU of the xbox360 is based on the Cell chip is true!

Short answer yes, long answer no.

I know, it's slighty based on one of the parts that form the Cell chip. But that's the beauty of "based"



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