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http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/20/nokias-n9-official-a-plastic-slab-of-meego-coming-later-this-y/

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Looks quite good, it kind of makes you wonder why they chose WP7 as their main OS going forward. I know they want the developer support and all that, but it can't be that important to a lot of apps, so long as you have the right apps.

I know Nokia said they couldn't release enough MeeGo devices in time to make it good enough competition, but you have to wonder why.

Either way, having WP7 on that hardware is something to look forward to, even more if they can bring that GPS app to WP7!



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Looks pretty cool. If WP7 hardware looks that amazing, I may have to upgrade...



disolitude said:
Looks pretty cool. If WP7 hardware looks that amazing, I may have to upgrade...

It does look pretty sweet.

I hope they can bring their NFC tech to WP7 as well, some of the things they have going look really neat.



Looks cool but not have XENON flash... so I will wait the N8-01 .



ethomaz said:
Looks cool but not have XENON flash... so I will wait the N8-01 .


Nokia Conversations said N9 is the brightest (dual) LED of all current Nokia models. Looks really cool, and they said their WebKit2 browser is very heavily HTML5 oriented, scores even better than some desktop browsers! Personally, I don't really care, but it's interesting anyways.



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MDMAniac said:
ethomaz said:
Looks cool but not have XENON flash... so I will wait the N8-01 .


Nokia Conversations said N9 is the brightest (dual) LED of all current Nokia models. Looks really cool, and they said their WebKit2 browser is very heavily HTML5 oriented, scores even better than some desktop browsers! Personally, I don't really care, but it's interesting anyways.

Looks good but I already used every Dual LED type and Xenon is just in another level... the pictures I take at night is better than most digital cameras on the market (not profissional)... I can't go back to LED after enjoy Xenon .



The hardware and the software look good, but what consumer or developer in their right mind would buy into what Nokia itself calls a "burning platform." The Meego ecosystem isn't going to go anywhere.

I'm more convinced than ever that the MS + Nokia partnership is the most amazingly good deal that Microsoft has ever pulled off. They strangled Meego before it even got out of the womb. Now, no matter how talented and beautiful a child it is, it gets to sleep under the stairs and eat fish heads.



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
*Image indefinitely borrowed from BrainBoxLtd without his consent.

famousringo said:
The hardware and the software look good, but what consumer or developer in their right mind would buy into what Nokia itself calls a "burning platform." The Meego ecosystem isn't going to go anywhere.

I'm more convinced than ever that the MS + Nokia partnership is the most amazingly good deal that Microsoft has ever pulled off. They strangled Meego before it even got out of the womb. Now, no matter how talented and beautiful a child it is, it gets to sleep under the stairs and eat fish heads.

While there's no doubt that Microsoft made a great deal, I think the reasoning behind making WP7 Nokia's primary OS is still sound enough.

Stephen Elop has been talking about the eco system and its importance since he came to Nokia, and while MeeGo looks like a very capable OS (although we don't quite know how it stacks up against the competition), it is very late to introduce a new OS to the market and keep the eco system healthy. The reasons Nokia went with WP7 are

1) WP7 is getting way more support by handset manufacturers. Apple can afford being the only company to support the App Store because they revolutionized the smartphone business and got huge support from both consumers and developers, but can Nokia pull off the same trick? MeeGo looks good, but it doesn't look like anything that will turn the market on its head if Nokia is the only hardware manufacturer supporting it.

2) WP7 has a head start on Meego. Even if MeeGo comes out guns blazing by the end of the year, WP7 already has a lot of development support, not to mention public recognition. Combine this with the advertising support Microsoft will undoubtedly provide and the existing brand recognition, and WP7 is much more likely to attract customers than MeeGo right now.

3) Nokia's deal with Microsoft allows them to customize WP7 as much as they like. Android (which matches the previous reasons) is not something Google wants tampered with to the degree Nokia wanted.

In the end, I don't think MeeGo will make a big splash, and the splash wouldn't have been big enough even if Nokia had thrown their entire weight behind it. Joining forces with Microsoft seems like a good idea still to me.



disolitude said:
Looks pretty cool. If WP7 hardware looks that amazing, I may have to upgrade...


Lookie dat, WP7 running on more or less the same hardware:

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/video-of-nokias-first-windows-phone-device-leaks-onto-the-internet.ars

@Rainbird

1. That's actually a mark against WP7. MS doesn't need Nokia for its platform to succeed. What happens if Nokia hooks up to the WP7 train, but Samsung undercuts them on price and becomes the premiere manufacturer? How long will the special treatment last in that scenario? WP7 isn't turning the market on its head without Nokia. If it can transform the market with Nokia's help, why can't Nokia do it on their own?

2. Last I looked, the Ovi Store is still pretty far ahead of WP7 in app sales, and I could be mistaken, but I think MeeGo fully supports it. In fact, the last I saw, Ovi was actually larger than the Android market:

http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/21/861-5-percent-growth-android-puny/

This is a few months old, and WP7 was too young to get good data on, but I've heard no reason to believe that WP7's ecosystem is more vibrant than any of the app markets listed in that article. I'm also not convinced that Microsoft is a bigger name in cell phones than Nokia.

3. That's a reason to choose WP7 over Android, but it's not a reason to choose WP7 over MeeGo, which Nokia has even more freedom to modify than WP7.

There's room for disagreement here, but as far as I'm conerned, Nokia without its own software is a lot like Sega without its own hardware. It's dancing to somebody else's tune, and for somebody else's gain. There's no question that Nokia needed to do something to escape their downward spiral, but if MeeGo really is as good as it looks, I'm not convinced that wedding themselves to Microsoft was the best answer.



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
*Image indefinitely borrowed from BrainBoxLtd without his consent.

famousringo said:

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/video-of-nokias-first-windows-phone-device-leaks-onto-the-internet.ars


Smells like conspiracy here. Elop certainly doesn't really want N9 to succeed, as his position of CEO is one huge bet on Microkia deal. And so how conveniently it comes, the day after N9 was officially announced, there is leak of pretty much similar design running WP7. In every interview he gives, there is strong statement from him it's the last Meego device so don't expect much and so on. Way to undermine the sales. He's soooooo funny when said "look guys, don't make shots or videos, puhleeze, wink-wink" that I lol'ed.

OK, now bring me my tinfoil.