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jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
MS lied about the failrate of the 360 in public statements I wouldn't be surprised if they were covering up a hack seeing how much revenue they get from live

Even if they pulled a sony and didn't tell anyone, there is noway they would keep xbox live up and running if a breach had occurred. That would just be crazy.

Sony did tell people... Someone is biased and if MS was covering it up taking the network down is the last thing they'd do 

Microsoft is not gonna allow hackers full access to their network just because they want to cover it up. If the hackers got in then there is a security hole and microsoft will take the network down to avoid further damage. It has nothing to do with bias, thats just what any company would do. (same thing that sony did).

MS took  like 5 years to completely and properly redesign the 360 to get rid of it's insanely high failrate so I sincerely doubt they'd shut down to fix their network especially since they get money from it, they'd proabably just try to patch it without taking it down until their schedualed maintainance (which isn't that far away I believe)

You can't compare the failure rate to network hacking. With the failure rate the ball was in MS court to fix or not fix it, if hackers get access to xbox live then microsoft would have lost control. If someone steals you're credit card are you just going to wait for a new one or are you going to tell the bank to cut it off in order to avoid any further loss? Microsoft is not going to leave an unsecure network open while creating a patch, thats crazy talk. The amount of money they'd lose trying to save face would be much worse than if they just took it down.



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voty2000 said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
MS lied about the failrate of the 360 in public statements I wouldn't be surprised if they were covering up a hack seeing how much revenue they get from live

Even if they pulled a sony and didn't tell anyone, there is noway they would keep xbox live up and running if a breach had occurred. That would just be crazy.

Sony did tell people... Someone is biased and if MS was covering it up taking the network down is the last thing they'd do 

Microsoft is not gonna allow hackers full access to their network just because they want to cover it up. If the hackers got in then there is a security hole and microsoft will take the network down to avoid further damage. It has nothing to do with bias, thats just what any company would do. (same thing that sony did).

MS took  like 5 years to completely and properly redesign the 360 to get rid of it's insanely high failrate so I sincerely doubt they'd shut down to fix their network especially since they get money from it, they'd proabably just try to patch it without taking it down until their schedualed maintainance (which isn't that far away I believe)


There is no way someone actaully believes what you just said.  Every company in the world with a website will bring it down if there is a breach to prevent hackers from gaining further control of the network and from stealing personal information.  It would hurt the company more to keep it up than to take it down so it would be stupid to do even if you hated your customers.

Now I see you have only 9 posts.  An alt? 

It only hurst the company if it's discovered they were covering it up, if not it just hurts their customers and the failrate hurt the company and they still didn't proplerly fix it for 5 years... so not much of an arguement on your side



wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
MS lied about the failrate of the 360 in public statements I wouldn't be surprised if they were covering up a hack seeing how much revenue they get from live

Even if they pulled a sony and didn't tell anyone, there is noway they would keep xbox live up and running if a breach had occurred. That would just be crazy.

Sony did tell people... Someone is biased and if MS was covering it up taking the network down is the last thing they'd do 

Microsoft is not gonna allow hackers full access to their network just because they want to cover it up. If the hackers got in then there is a security hole and microsoft will take the network down to avoid further damage. It has nothing to do with bias, thats just what any company would do. (same thing that sony did).

MS took  like 5 years to completely and properly redesign the 360 to get rid of it's insanely high failrate so I sincerely doubt they'd shut down to fix their network especially since they get money from it, they'd proabably just try to patch it without taking it down until their schedualed maintainance (which isn't that far away I believe)

You can't compare the failure rate to network hacking. With the failure rate the ball was in MS court to fix or not fix it, if hackers get access to xbox live then microsoft would have lost control. If someone steals you're credit card are you just going to wait for a new one or are you going to tell the bank to cut it off in order to avoid any further loss? Microsoft is not going to leave an unsecure network open while creating a patch, thats crazy talk. The amount of money they'd lose trying to save face would be much worse than if they just took it down.

They were only in court after their cover up failed, they wouldn't lose anything if their cover up of the hack works, like the 360 failrate people will just assume MS is telling the truth despite any evidence they see to the contrary and there's alot less evidence because the hack is less publci then the failrate 



jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
MS lied about the failrate of the 360 in public statements I wouldn't be surprised if they were covering up a hack seeing how much revenue they get from live

Even if they pulled a sony and didn't tell anyone, there is noway they would keep xbox live up and running if a breach had occurred. That would just be crazy.

Sony did tell people... Someone is biased and if MS was covering it up taking the network down is the last thing they'd do 

Microsoft is not gonna allow hackers full access to their network just because they want to cover it up. If the hackers got in then there is a security hole and microsoft will take the network down to avoid further damage. It has nothing to do with bias, thats just what any company would do. (same thing that sony did).

MS took  like 5 years to completely and properly redesign the 360 to get rid of it's insanely high failrate so I sincerely doubt they'd shut down to fix their network especially since they get money from it, they'd proabably just try to patch it without taking it down until their schedualed maintainance (which isn't that far away I believe)

 

You see, now your just being a crazy fanboy. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Microsoft constantly improved the 360's motherboard to improve the failure rate before the Slim 360 was released. You make it sound as if they sat on their ass for 5 years before doing anything.

 

And secondly, are you aware that XBL did not get hacked at all? It was some 3'rd party site and Lulzsec just told people to try their luck to see if they matched those of XBL.



jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
MS lied about the failrate of the 360 in public statements I wouldn't be surprised if they were covering up a hack seeing how much revenue they get from live

Even if they pulled a sony and didn't tell anyone, there is noway they would keep xbox live up and running if a breach had occurred. That would just be crazy.

Sony did tell people... Someone is biased and if MS was covering it up taking the network down is the last thing they'd do 

Microsoft is not gonna allow hackers full access to their network just because they want to cover it up. If the hackers got in then there is a security hole and microsoft will take the network down to avoid further damage. It has nothing to do with bias, thats just what any company would do. (same thing that sony did).

MS took  like 5 years to completely and properly redesign the 360 to get rid of it's insanely high failrate so I sincerely doubt they'd shut down to fix their network especially since they get money from it, they'd proabably just try to patch it without taking it down until their schedualed maintainance (which isn't that far away I believe)

You can't compare the failure rate to network hacking. With the failure rate the ball was in MS court to fix or not fix it, if hackers get access to xbox live then microsoft would have lost control. If someone steals you're credit card are you just going to wait for a new one or are you going to tell the bank to cut it off in order to avoid any further loss? Microsoft is not going to leave an unsecure network open while creating a patch, thats crazy talk. The amount of money they'd lose trying to save face would be much worse than if they just took it down.

They were only in court after their cover up failed, they wouldn't lose anything if their cover up of the hack works, like the 360 failrate people will just assume MS is telling the truth despite any evidence they see to the contrary and there's alot less evidence because the hack is less publci then the failrate 

you are working towards a quick ban...but I'm guessing you are an Alt account anyways...please leave this forum as you are obviously here to start flame wars.



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MaulerX said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
MS lied about the failrate of the 360 in public statements I wouldn't be surprised if they were covering up a hack seeing how much revenue they get from live

Even if they pulled a sony and didn't tell anyone, there is noway they would keep xbox live up and running if a breach had occurred. That would just be crazy.

Sony did tell people... Someone is biased and if MS was covering it up taking the network down is the last thing they'd do 

Microsoft is not gonna allow hackers full access to their network just because they want to cover it up. If the hackers got in then there is a security hole and microsoft will take the network down to avoid further damage. It has nothing to do with bias, thats just what any company would do. (same thing that sony did).

MS took  like 5 years to completely and properly redesign the 360 to get rid of it's insanely high failrate so I sincerely doubt they'd shut down to fix their network especially since they get money from it, they'd proabably just try to patch it without taking it down until their schedualed maintainance (which isn't that far away I believe)

 

You see, now your just being a crazy fanboy. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Microsoft constantly improved the 360's motherboard to improve the failure rate before the Slim 360 was released. You make it sound as if they sat on their ass for 5 years before doing anything.

 

And secondly, are you aware that XBL did not get hacked at all? It was some 3'rd party site and Lulzsec just told people to try their luck to see if they matched those of XBL.

Constantly but extrmely slowly and most of the changes were to reduce cost more then fix the failrate and I'm not believing MSes word for a second they lied to us before they'll lie again so unless you have other evidence that live wasn't hacked  let me know, and isn't all the other sites they put passwords for intergreated in xbl?



jibityjabityju said:
voty2000 said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
MS lied about the failrate of the 360 in public statements I wouldn't be surprised if they were covering up a hack seeing how much revenue they get from live

Even if they pulled a sony and didn't tell anyone, there is noway they would keep xbox live up and running if a breach had occurred. That would just be crazy.

Sony did tell people... Someone is biased and if MS was covering it up taking the network down is the last thing they'd do 

Microsoft is not gonna allow hackers full access to their network just because they want to cover it up. If the hackers got in then there is a security hole and microsoft will take the network down to avoid further damage. It has nothing to do with bias, thats just what any company would do. (same thing that sony did).

MS took  like 5 years to completely and properly redesign the 360 to get rid of it's insanely high failrate so I sincerely doubt they'd shut down to fix their network especially since they get money from it, they'd proabably just try to patch it without taking it down until their schedualed maintainance (which isn't that far away I believe)


There is no way someone actaully believes what you just said.  Every company in the world with a website will bring it down if there is a breach to prevent hackers from gaining further control of the network and from stealing personal information.  It would hurt the company more to keep it up than to take it down so it would be stupid to do even if you hated your customers.

Now I see you have only 9 posts.  An alt? 

It only hurst the company if it's discovered they were covering it up, if not it just hurts their customers and the failrate hurt the company and they still didn't proplerly fix it for 5 years... so not much of an arguement on your sid

No it wouldn't.  If they have control over the network then identities would be the first thing stolen.  Then company secrets can be jacked and hackers can gain more and more power over the network and will be able to turn off systems and change coding and stuff.  To stop them you need to turn off the network.  It would just be dumb to leave it up and give hackers complete control over you system.  Doesn't matter if you get caught if hackers gained industry secrets like algorithms and can boot people off at will and turn off entire systems.

Also, look at the hacker groups, they always release who they hacked and what they did.  So what purpose would MS keeping it secret serve?  It would serve no purpose and would make them look worse just like what happened with Sony.  Instead of releasing what happened immediately they waited and pissed off customers. 



I'm so sick of all these hackers.........



jibityjabityju said:
MaulerX said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
MS lied about the failrate of the 360 in public statements I wouldn't be surprised if they were covering up a hack seeing how much revenue they get from live

Even if they pulled a sony and didn't tell anyone, there is noway they would keep xbox live up and running if a breach had occurred. That would just be crazy.

Sony did tell people... Someone is biased and if MS was covering it up taking the network down is the last thing they'd do 

Microsoft is not gonna allow hackers full access to their network just because they want to cover it up. If the hackers got in then there is a security hole and microsoft will take the network down to avoid further damage. It has nothing to do with bias, thats just what any company would do. (same thing that sony did).

MS took  like 5 years to completely and properly redesign the 360 to get rid of it's insanely high failrate so I sincerely doubt they'd shut down to fix their network especially since they get money from it, they'd proabably just try to patch it without taking it down until their schedualed maintainance (which isn't that far away I believe)

 

You see, now your just being a crazy fanboy. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Microsoft constantly improved the 360's motherboard to improve the failure rate before the Slim 360 was released. You make it sound as if they sat on their ass for 5 years before doing anything.

 

And secondly, are you aware that XBL did not get hacked at all? It was some 3'rd party site and Lulzsec just told people to try their luck to see if they matched those of XBL.

Constantly but extrmely slowly and most of the changes were to reduce cost more then fix the failrate and I'm not believing MSes word for a second they lied to us before they'll lie again so unless you have other evidence that live wasn't hacked  let me know, and isn't all the other sites they put passwords for intergreated in xbl?

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/story/2011/06/17/pei-lulzsec-personal-internet-accounts-584.html

Proof is in the thread itself.  A third party side got hacked not XBL.  Paypal is also affected.



voty2000 said:
jibityjabityju said:
MaulerX said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
wilco said:
jibityjabityju said:
MS lied about the failrate of the 360 in public statements I wouldn't be surprised if they were covering up a hack seeing how much revenue they get from live

Even if they pulled a sony and didn't tell anyone, there is noway they would keep xbox live up and running if a breach had occurred. That would just be crazy.

Sony did tell people... Someone is biased and if MS was covering it up taking the network down is the last thing they'd do 

Microsoft is not gonna allow hackers full access to their network just because they want to cover it up. If the hackers got in then there is a security hole and microsoft will take the network down to avoid further damage. It has nothing to do with bias, thats just what any company would do. (same thing that sony did).

MS took  like 5 years to completely and properly redesign the 360 to get rid of it's insanely high failrate so I sincerely doubt they'd shut down to fix their network especially since they get money from it, they'd proabably just try to patch it without taking it down until their schedualed maintainance (which isn't that far away I believe)

 

You see, now your just being a crazy fanboy. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Microsoft constantly improved the 360's motherboard to improve the failure rate before the Slim 360 was released. You make it sound as if they sat on their ass for 5 years before doing anything.

 

And secondly, are you aware that XBL did not get hacked at all? It was some 3'rd party site and Lulzsec just told people to try their luck to see if they matched those of XBL.

Constantly but extrmely slowly and most of the changes were to reduce cost more then fix the failrate and I'm not believing MSes word for a second they lied to us before they'll lie again so unless you have other evidence that live wasn't hacked  let me know, and isn't all the other sites they put passwords for intergreated in xbl?

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/story/2011/06/17/pei-lulzsec-personal-internet-accounts-584.html

Proof is in the thread itself.  A third party side got hacked not XBL.  Paypal is also affected.

Correction a third party got hacked not PAYPAL, nothing in there says live  wasn't hacked, xbl could be the third party, they just started including paypal