Can't believe how much momentum Nintendo had going into this conference all just to ruin it with that reveal.

Hilarious. Still, we got to the bottom of a few Vita mysteries with the announcements. Not getting DQH2 because they want us to buy the Switch version instead. Same as I am Setsuna. And Sonic Mania.

Anyway, here's some Vita news from the Switch reveal! Lol. Farming Simulator 2018 coming. For some reason we only get alternate years in this series. For whoever is buying it.

http://psp2roundup.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/focus-confirm-farming-simulator-2018.html

Guys, it's all but confirmed we're getting physical Vita versions of Axiom Verge & Velocity 2x, at least in Europe:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228182330&postcount=368

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228261542&postcount=376

OMG

Did they really have momentum? I've been hearing that a lot since coming back, but I just don't see it. It seemed like there were high expectations because they'd been so quiet for so long that they must have been working on something SUPER GREAT, but what has Nintendo done in forever? The Wii U was simply dire, just as the 3DS nearly was until they put all hands on deck to salvage it. They can't release a game in a timely fashion to save their lives. Zelda looking like a good game is pretty much a given and therefore not much of an achievement. They finally decided to go mobile, which could be just as much an act of desperation as an example of them getting smart, and the result so far is underwhelming. Although they've benefited from it, they had nothing whatsoever to do with Pokemon Go or its success. And now they seem to be in the process of Wii U-ing their handheld business instead of DSing their home console business as they'd hoped.

Honestly, the last brilliant move I remember from them was stealing Monster Hunter six years ago to kill the Vita right before it launched... and Splatoon, I guess.

I didn't even think the conference was that bad in terms of content. The problem is that the Switch just seemed like another Wii U from the start (only worse because now it's their handheld, too) and so it needed megatons that were never going to happen.

I'm talking in terms of the initial Switch reveal. There was a lot of pre-reveal hype - people obviously knew it was a hybrid and they were excited about the reveal. Then the actual thing was just long enough to tease people to get them insanely hyped. All the different ways you can play. Mario was there and Skyrim was there. It was western-focused yet with enough eastern touches with local multi-player to make it seem good.

At least, that's how I saw it. I realise Nintendo completely fluffed Wii-U and barely saved 3DS (though I do think they've done a good job with it in the last few year's especially).

Given that Vita won't likely have a successor I was actually looking toward Nintendo to give me handheld gaming in the future. The Switch reveal felt like Wii U 1.5 rather than finally seeing all those 3DS titles given HD treatment. I'm not writing it off yet, but I was very underwhelmed and even with Zelda and Mario I'm not sure at this point I'll get one until there is a sale or bundle because $300 (+$70-80 for second controller) is too high for what I saw and expect to be available in first six months on it.

Ah. Well, it's gonna be pretty grim for handheld fans if this bombs and there's no proper 3DS successor in the works. I guess it'd all just go away for a while, at least until the idea is old enough to be new again.

Pokemon on Switch is still a major move as would be most significant technological leap for that series in a long time.  If 2017 comes and goes and no major 3DS titles have successors announced for Switch I will become very concerned with Nintendo and handheld gaming.

Yeah, we'll see. No matter what, though, I really can't see this thing doing 3DS numbers.

Not at $300.  If there is room for a price cut to $200 in the next 18 months it has a shot.  Depends on Nintendo's philosophy as the Wii U held at price points long after its sales were consistently poor.

I mean, I see Switch being a moderate commercial success. It's clearly going to step into Vita's role in Japan which is multi-plat with PS4 titles, which is basically all Vita's had its whole life (alongside PS3 multiplats) and it pushed 6m there. Switch should easily do more with the additional Nintendo franchises.

In the west, I don't see it selling to more than the Nintendo hardcore really, just like Wii U did.

One thing's for certain - I was expecting to wake up this morning and see all kinds of amazing Switch news all over the front page. Betrayalton of this dev going over to them; that game being announced and the price being competitive. None of that happened. They're getting a load of late ports; the western third parties STILL aren't on board; the Japanese third parties aren't announcing anything really new and the indies were barely present.

It's certainly convinced me that I'm happy with my Vita/PS4 setup for at least another year. Beyond that we'll see where the console is at that point and whether I can justify a purchase.