Monty said: Just to clarify one thing... it took the Xbox 19 months to reach the 10 million shipped level. The 360 did it in 13... tying the PS2 as the fastest to reach the 10 million mark. The 360's sales are not behind the Xbox, and at this point aren't behind anybody's sales figures for a launch. While it's HIGHLY unlikely it will match the PS2's total in the end (beyond unlikely, actually), it will clearly sell at least double of the Xbox 1 or GameCube, and I doubt many people here would argue that. And, I'll gladly take a bet with you if you don't think it'll outsell the Xbox 1!

Monty said: Well, to shed a little light on how vgcharts comes up with its figures, I'm attempting to do a little research on his earlier posts over at the GAF forums. Apparently, he feels NPD under-reports figures (which most agree, with some saying up to 20% of the actual figure), and figured out a calculation based on something to do with when the new model PStwo was released, the old inventory left over, and the NPD stats to that point. So, he doesn't have any exact figures either, and uses a simple formula that he came up with to compute NA... based on under-reporting of NPD and a guestimate of Canada's sales. I didn't see anything for accounting for Mexico's sales. And, I think where the biggest error is - as you pointed out Erik - is that the 360 has launched in a lot more minor countries then the Wii or PS3. It's likely that the 360 is getting the short end of the stick (as you say) because of if. If he is using the EXACT same formulas for each console, then that most definitely would not be fair, and you'd either be severly under-reporting the 360's numbers, or over reporting the other consoles as they are not on level playing fields in terms of their launches.

Stromprophet said: No. It did not do this so much sooner. Here is an article from sales thru September of last year. 360 surpassed Original box in October. http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14095 Thats stats from analysts who follow this info. And it's not ahrd to see why. When original box launched they sold 1.5 million units in November/December in the US in 2001. In 2005 November/December they only sold 600,000 units. (These are US sales of course), but that's a lot of units to catch up. And eventually they did. But not until recently. For a comparison according to NPD reports Original Box sold 470,000 November 2002 (year after launch). 360 511k November 2006 (year after launch). It's not as though it's blowing the original figures away.

Alvar said: Stromprophet said: No. It did not do this so much sooner. Here is an article from sales thru September of last year. 360 surpassed Original box in October. http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14095 Thats stats from analysts who follow this info. And it's not ahrd to see why. When original box launched they sold 1.5 million units in November/December in the US in 2001. In 2005 November/December they only sold 600,000 units. (These are US sales of course), but that's a lot of units to catch up. And eventually they did. But not until recently. For a comparison according to NPD reports Original Box sold 470,000 November 2002 (year after launch). 360 511k November 2006 (year after launch). It's not as though it's blowing the original figures away. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt the original xbox have a price cut before then? if that was the case, then you could pretty much argue that the 360 is "blowing the original figures away". x360 sales would probably increase from a price-cut. if the original didnt have the price cut until later, then ignore this post, I'm too freeking lazy to check now that I'm done writing this.

Tabarnacos said: Wii launch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_launch Xbox360 launch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_launch The Wii was available in brazil BEFORE the 360...

Jack said: http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14940&page=1 The NPD numbers are out console month(millions) Total(millions) PS2 1.4 37.1 xbox 360 1.1 4.5 Wii .6042 1.1 PS3 .4907 .6873 vgcharts is 5.38 with a difference of 880K That is a 16% difference. That is our 10% Canada and your 5% Mexico plus 1% for kicks.

Alvar said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt the original xbox have a price cut before then? if that was the case, then you could pretty much argue that the 360 is "blowing the original figures away". x360 sales would probably increase from a price-cut. if the original didnt have the price cut until later, then ignore this post, I'm too freeking lazy to check now that I'm done writing this.

Monty said: While it's a little off topic... just to hammer home HOW much better the 360 is doing than the Xbox1... the Xbox 1 reached 14.5 million on about July of 2004 (the 2 year, 20 month mark). The 360 is on pace to reach that same figure by July of 2007 (the 1 year, 20 month mark). Meaning, by July the 360 will likely be a full year ahead of the Xbox's pace. Even more amazing, is they did that without any Halo titles, which will likely come in the holiday season of 2007.