sapphi_snake said:
elticker said: its funny of how you accuse egypt of being fundamentalist muslim country, no human rights when you were the guys who have done a pretty bloody revolution and acted like animals after the revolution worked murdering the presidents without any fair or even close to fair trails and not him alone but alot of people with him(it was pretty much a massacare, genocide against anyone who was associated with the communist leadership), much of human rights where we egypt had a white revolution and they are currently standing fair trails. fundamentalist muslim country my ass when 90% egyptains are crying out for a seperation between religion and the state (politics) and this will be proven in the next presidentail elections where i dare you and bet that no islamic minded candidate will have over 10% |
What are you smoking? No one other than the dictator and his wife were killed. And the only person who tried to commit genocide was the dictator who ordered the army to kill the protesters. If the revolution was bloody, he's to blame for it.
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mubarak ordered the army to fire and the army refused, i actaully have the newspaper which has our chieff of starr same annan saying that they got presidentail orders to burn tahrir square to the ground but they refused and even if the army heads ordered there would be a coup as the our military is closely bonded to the egyptain public, we cheared when they went to the streets, recieveing orders is not the same like obeying orders, your army fired at protestors and i think protestors where pretty scared when the army went to the street, while our army refused and not one shot was fired at protestors.
http://wlcentral.org/node/1298
Reporting in the Independent on Friday, Robert Fisk tells us that Hosni Mubarak had ordered the massacre of the people in Tahrir Square:
the critical moment came on the evening of 30 January when, it is now clear, Mubarak ordered the Egyptian Third Army to crush the demonstrators in Tahrir Square with their tanks after flying F-16 fighter bombers at low level over the protesters.
Many of the senior tank commanders could be seen tearing off their headsets – over which they had received the fatal orders – to use their mobile phones. They were, it now transpires, calling their own military families for advice. Fathers who had spent their lives serving the Egyptian army told their sons to disobey, that they must never kill their own people.
Fisk's report was raised near the end of 2011-02-13 Tales of Tyrants: Ben Ali, Mubarak & Suleiman yesterday but we feel it is important enough to bear repeating and elaboration:
Please note also something else that can be deduced from Robert Fisk's description of these events. Namely that it was the low level officers in the tanks, the ones that got their orders over headsets, that refused to carry out the mass murder in Tahrir Square. Had the top brass refused Mubarak, those orders never would have been heard over headsets.
It was soldiers with cell phones that stopped the slaughter. It was the low level officers and tank commanders that organized a mutiny and refused to carry out the massacre. We now know that when an army spokesman announced on state TV the day after the refused massacre, that “the armed forces will not resort to use of force against our great people.” He was not speaking of the will or morality of the supreme military council, he was speaking of their limitations. He was referring to a power they had attempted to exercise but failed to exercise the night before
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/162806.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_Revolution_of_1989
waw you are now shifting stances. you said society is to blame for everything and now it is the dictator is to blame, interesting. when i recieve orders i can choose to not do it you know that right. it was societies fault for the bloody revolution as they accepted the orders and romania pretty much became a jungle with animals killing each other.
take a look at the first paragraph it shows how much our people have more values than yours because we disobeyed and not one bullet was fired against protestors, so where are the no human rights, fundamentalist muslim country now. They disobeyed even when orders where coming from high command which i daught but they disobeyed which makes me proud to be an egyptain, your army could have too but they didn't just like dogs.
why the fuck would you not trail him like human beings and murdered him and not him alone but his wife too thats pretty animalistic and inhumane to the greatest degree don't you agree.
also you didn't answer me how are we a fundemalistic muslim country when we used to jail up the muslim brother hood, no censorship on porn, no fundamalestic muslim country does that and we have 10% christain population.
bottom line: we are more humane than you romanains are so don't even compare us to you