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Kasz216 on 02 June 2011
Troll_Whisperer said:
sapphi_snake said:
padib said:
sapphi_snake said:
padib said:

She's insane, but at least two people are born from her madness, so they saw the light of life. The dad seems happy they're alive, but the woman has no sense of justice what-so-ever.

Amazing current wife though, who's supportive about it. To make good of a curse is nothing easy!

The guy should be pressing charges against her, and sueing that Sperm Bank, who did a louse job of protecting his sperm. He's a real fool for having any contact with those kids, and he should resist paying a single dime to support them. This financial strain will affect his real family and children, and probably ruin his life.

Definitely a judgement call there, maybe he can see them as people who are biologically his kin, but socially not his family at all. In that perspective you're absolutely right. Maybe there is no better way to look at it. I guess I didn't see it like that. Up to now (thank God my surroundings are still sane), I've always considered blood link to be family. Still a little grey if you ask me.

The ideea is that he had no (willing) part whatsoever in the conception. It would be the equivalent of a woman getti ng raped, becoming pregnant with the rapist, and then forced to give birth and take care of her rapist's child. This woman commited fraud, and something that many women do (steal a man's sperm, become pregnant, and then sue him for child support), which quite frankly should be considered a sex crime. She should be locked up in jail, have to pay the man moral damages, the clinic should have to do the same.

As for raising the kids resulted from this transgression, the man should be the last person who should have any obligation to care for them. A relative of the woman's or the state should care for them while she's in prison, and the man shouldn't be financially burdened in any way. He has an actual family, and actual children to take care of.

What? How many women do that? This is the first time I've heard of something like this in my life...

I also don't understand how it would be a sex crime...

That's just silly.

Seems more like fraud and theft to me.



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Kasz216 on 02 June 2011
Troll_Whisperer said:
sapphi_snake said:
padib said:
sapphi_snake said:
padib said:

She's insane, but at least two people are born from her madness, so they saw the light of life. The dad seems happy they're alive, but the woman has no sense of justice what-so-ever.

Amazing current wife though, who's supportive about it. To make good of a curse is nothing easy!

The guy should be pressing charges against her, and sueing that Sperm Bank, who did a louse job of protecting his sperm. He's a real fool for having any contact with those kids, and he should resist paying a single dime to support them. This financial strain will affect his real family and children, and probably ruin his life.

Definitely a judgement call there, maybe he can see them as people who are biologically his kin, but socially not his family at all. In that perspective you're absolutely right. Maybe there is no better way to look at it. I guess I didn't see it like that. Up to now (thank God my surroundings are still sane), I've always considered blood link to be family. Still a little grey if you ask me.

The ideea is that he had no (willing) part whatsoever in the conception. It would be the equivalent of a woman getti ng raped, becoming pregnant with the rapist, and then forced to give birth and take care of her rapist's child. This woman commited fraud, and something that many women do (steal a man's sperm, become pregnant, and then sue him for child support), which quite frankly should be considered a sex crime. She should be locked up in jail, have to pay the man moral damages, the clinic should have to do the same.

As for raising the kids resulted from this transgression, the man should be the last person who should have any obligation to care for them. A relative of the woman's or the state should care for them while she's in prison, and the man shouldn't be financially burdened in any way. He has an actual family, and actual children to take care of.

What? How many women do that? This is the first time I've heard of something like this in my life...

I also don't understand how it would be a sex crime...

That's just silly.

Seems more like fraud and theft to me.



sapphi_snake on 02 June 2011
Kasz216 said:

It still is a man's world.  A woman getting away with one thing because of a stupid court desicion doesn't change that.


Due to the forgery it's pretty clear there should be a problem.


However if she didn't forge his signature... it would of been his fault for not closing her out of the account...  like if you leave an ex on your bank account.

Legally that's both of yours.

She DID forge his signature. Appearently she felt entitled to use his sper without his permission, and then sue him for a small fortune to support the brats she wanted so much but can't take care of. Women ALWAYS get away with stuff like this. I've yet to hear a single case where the judge sided with the guy, and the woman got punished for her actions.



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sapphi_snake on 02 June 2011
Troll_Whisperer said:

What? How many women do that? This is the first time I've heard of something like this in my life...

There are lots of articles with situations like this. A very common thing is for women to take an used condom after intercourse, and then use the sperm from it to get pregnant, after which they sues the guy and live off of alimony.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Kasz216 on 02 June 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:

It still is a man's world.  A woman getting away with one thing because of a stupid court desicion doesn't change that.


Due to the forgery it's pretty clear there should be a problem.


However if she didn't forge his signature... it would of been his fault for not closing her out of the account...  like if you leave an ex on your bank account.

Legally that's both of yours.

She DID forge his signature. Appearently she felt entitled to use his sper without his permission, and then sue him for a small fortune to support the brats she wanted so much but can't take care of. Women ALWAYS get away with stuff like this. I've yet to hear a single case where the judge sided with the guy, and the woman got punished for her actions.

I was talking about general cases... not that there are likely many.

I would note that generally how news works is... when something that is out of the norm happens... it is reported.

Note that people who donate to sperm banks do not have to pay child support.

Also, technically she didn't forge her signature.  She committed Criminal Simulation.  It's like Manslaughter instead of murder.

Basically, it's not a forgery because she wasn't trying to screw him out of money... as evidenced by the fact that it took her 3 years to try and get money out of him... and only because she was bankrupt and her son was about to die.

Why this is a problem in the UK where there is supposed to be universal healthcare i'm not sure... how does a kid with a fatal illness bankrupt their parent?

Outside which, I wouldn't be surprised if he wins an appeal and we just never hear about it.

Afterall generally sperm donaters aren't responsible for the children they found outside of marriage.

If it were me i'd sue the sperm bank.




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Kasz216 on 02 June 2011

Oh... and for an amusing paralel... there is a woman in Australia right now fighting in the courts so she can have a child with her dead husbands sperm.

People refusing to give it to her and impregnate her because her husband died overseas before he signed a consent letter.



sapphi_snake on 02 June 2011
Kasz216 said:

I was talking about general cases... not that there are likely many.

I would note that generally how news works is... when something that is out of the norm happens... it is reported.

Note that people who donate to sperm banks do not have to pay child support.

Also, technically she didn't forge her signature.  She committed Criminal Simulation.  It's like Manslaughter instead of murder.

Basically, it's not a forgery because she wasn't trying to screw him out of money... as evidenced by the fact that it took her 3 years to try and get money out of him... and only because she was bankrupt and her son was about to die.

Why this is a problem in the UK where there is supposed to be universal healthcare i'm not sure... how does a kid with a fatal illness bankrupt their parent?

Outside which, I wouldn't be surprised if he wins an appeal and we just never hear about it.


If it were me i'd sue the sperm bank.

This is actually not true. I've read about many cases where women found out who their sper donors were, and then sued them for alimony and won. Essentially, the laws are outdated and don't take into consideration modern phenomenae. A sperm donor should not be liable for child support in any situation.

And women should stop thinking that they're entitled to have children through sperm clinics, and then have men support these children. This woman is a perfect example. It's irrelevant that her son was dying. She wanted him, she had him with stolent sperm, she should provide for him. This guy is in no way responsable for the brats this woman had, he has his own family and his own children to take care of. He shouldn't be drained of his life savings by those 3 leeches.

And I find it hard to believe that any court release him of his obligation to pay child support, sadly. He should sue the sperm bank, but morally he shouldn't have to pay child support at all. He should also make sure this woman's arrested for stealing his property. That's definately what I would do.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake on 02 June 2011
Kasz216 said:

Oh... and for an amusing paralel... there is a woman in Australia right now fighting in the courts so she can have a child with her dead husbands sperm.

People refusing to give it to her and impregnate her because her husband died overseas before he signed a consent letter.

Well, I'm glad the system works somewhere.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

forest-spirit on 02 June 2011

Wow. That's just...disturbing...>_>



Troll_Whisperer on 02 June 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Troll_Whisperer said:

What? How many women do that? This is the first time I've heard of something like this in my life...

There are lots of articles with situations like this. A very common thing is for women to take an used condom after intercourse, and then use the sperm from it to get pregnant, after which they sues the guy and live off of alimony.

There may be articles about these things, but that's because they are rare things, otherwise they wouldn't get published. 99.99% of women wouldn't do that. If you really think that many women would do something like that you probably haven't had a healthy relation in your life, lol. Ask people on these forums if it ever happened to them and you'll find it's not "very common".

Just think of this, there are thousands of times more car accidents than cases like these. How many people you know died in a car accident? Now divide it by 10,000 and that's the chances of something like that happening to you.

I agree though than when a woman and man divorce the kid goes 95% of the times to the woman, very often without reason, and that the guy has to pay loads of money, probably more than the woman end up paying for his upbringing. That's common.



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