That's more or less what i was thinking. Though they were definitely wrong to support them postwar like that, i mean, the entire country is 120 acres, and 120 acres was pretty easy for a WWII Bomber Squadron to wipe off the face of the earth, especially when it's 120 acres surrounded by your territory

The Vatican church probably had very little choice to be honest. The Vatican was under constant pressure from Mussolini to accept his terms during his entire regime. Helping Nazis was probably something they were forced to do, as opposed to something they wanted to do because they agreed with it.

They helped Nazi generals, not ordinary soldiers.

Considering the antisemintism the RCC had been promoting throughout the centuries, it's quite naive of you to say that the RCC wouldn've done something similar to the Holocaust, had it had the political and military power to do so. However it didn't need to, as the Nazis were already doing it. The fact that the Vatican aided Nazis to escape shows where their sympathies lied.

And FTR, Fascism had religious ties in manz places in the world (Croatia, Romania, Latin America etc.).

I'm pretty sure Mussolini was dead at the time, so no.

Anti-semtism is one thing... mass killing of a race is a totally different matter.

There are plenty of anti-semites and anti-semtic groups that wouldn't kill a jew even if they knew they could get away with it.

The vatican aided Nazi escape because Allied governments told them to... so does that show where the Allies sympathy lied?

You have such a strange pure black and white view of things... which is amusing... considering.  Your one of those people that tend to hate religion or a religion so much... that you end up acting exactly how you accuse them of acting... and why you hate them.  I'm would't be surprised if you were a Zeitgeist beleiver with attitudes like that.

Heck, you believe that the Roman Catholic Church... freed nazis... because they were sympathetic to them.... based on a book you haven't read, that suggests that might be one of a number of reasons they did it... though they have no proof as to why they did.  Off of one article... oh and then you extended it to "They would of had their own concentration camps!"  (Ignoring the fact that all of europe was pretty anti-semitc, and everyone else was aghast about them.)

Think about things uncritically much?

This is post war, so no Mussolini or Hitler.

No.  It's more FDR and Churchill.

What he's saying isn't new, so much as better documented.

A lot of people got out via Red Cross and Vatican just in the rust of innocent people trying to get out too.

Others got out through the Vatican... via CIA and RIA insistance because they were thought to be able to be useful against the Soviets. 

During WW2 the allies were already planning for WW3.  Including Stalin.

When they won WW2 Patton suggested that while they had the tanks on the ground and troops in the field they should press the advantage with relativly fresh US troops and "Push till Moscow".  While enlisting what was left of the German Army to help!

Bishops who knowingly let nazis escape just because they wanted to... that's just silly on any large basis.  Maybe here and there for an occasional Catholic who didn't have much to do with the Nazi party... afterall not ALL people in the Nazi party were bad guys... just the main leaders... lots of people were just everyday people who joined to better feed their families.

Haven't read the book so I don't know the specific claims and evidence put forward but the Vatican doing something like this certainly wouldn't surprise me.

Do you think that genocide is something spontaneous that just happens? There are things that lead up to it, and the anti-semitism promoted by the RCC for centuries is the main reason why such sentiments exist in Europe in the first place.

Can you honestly say that if the RCC still had political and military power in Europe at that time, that they wouldn't have taken advantage of the modern methods of mass killing to get back at the people who they claim to be responsable for the death of Jesus (while simoltaneously getting rid of the gypsies and gays)?

I don't have such a black and white view of things, but helping Nazis escape punishment is pretty black in my book. And I wasn't criticising the religion in this case (though the religion itself is also at fault), just a corrupt institution, that aided Nazis (and currently aids paedophiles).

Then again, I shouldn't be surprised by your accusations. Without all the shades of gray you Americans couldn't justify the attrocities you've commited. I can't help but feel a little bit sick when I hear your arguments for why Hiroshima and Nagasaki were OK.