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Euphoria14 said:
Fab_GS said:
Euphoria14 said:

Only problem I have with that line of thinking on Metacritics part is that Gamepro gave L.A. Noire a 5/5 and it is only counted for the 360 version, even though the review link in the PS3 section for that game is also linked to that review.

In that case shouldn't it count for both?

Because GamePro only played the X360 version. Even if you clicked "read full review" in the PS3 version page it will take you to the X360 review. They have been doing that for years.

http://www.gamepro.com/games/ps3/111288/l-a-noire/

 

Euphoria14 said:

Then in the case of Onion A.V., L.A. Noire has it listed as "Playstation 3 and XBox360 with PS3 listed first, yet Metacritic decided to only count the review towards the 360 version.

The site specifically said that they played it on the X360 version.

http://origin.avclub.com/articles/la-noire,56374/

Either way that is irrelevant. If the publication believes that score is justifiable for both versions then why does Metacritic pick and choose?

It is a diservice to those who use Metascores to determine game purchases.


But how whould the site know that both versions are the same without trying both?

To further prove my point regarding GamePro. Check out their review of X360 Bayonetta.
http://www.gamepro.com/article/reviews/213319/bayonetta/
The same review score was added to the PS3 page, even though we know that both versions aren't the same.



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L.A. Noire (PS3,Xbox 360)
5/20/2011 @ 6:58pm PST
Great when you're actually playing Detective, not so great when you're shooting guys in the face.
C
Good

 

To me that clearly seems like a review aimed towards PS3 and 360 versions, even if it was played on the PS3.

Metacritic should do the right thing and portray these scores the way the publications originally intended, instead of their crap that involves making up their own conversions for letter grades even when the publication asks them not to and on top of that weighing each publication differently, meaning an IGN 9.0 could add 9.3 to the Meta while a Destructoid 9.0 could add 8.7 to the overall.

 

It is a disservice to gamers and gaming publications. 

 

Like I said though, overall it probably isn't a big deal, but I have always had a problem with Metacritic. I just don't like it.



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Fab_GS said:
Euphoria14 said:
Fab_GS said:
Euphoria14 said:

Only problem I have with that line of thinking on Metacritics part is that Gamepro gave L.A. Noire a 5/5 and it is only counted for the 360 version, even though the review link in the PS3 section for that game is also linked to that review.

In that case shouldn't it count for both?

Because GamePro only played the X360 version. Even if you clicked "read full review" in the PS3 version page it will take you to the X360 review. They have been doing that for years.

http://www.gamepro.com/games/ps3/111288/l-a-noire/

 

Euphoria14 said:

Then in the case of Onion A.V., L.A. Noire has it listed as "Playstation 3 and XBox360 with PS3 listed first, yet Metacritic decided to only count the review towards the 360 version.

The site specifically said that they played it on the X360 version.

http://origin.avclub.com/articles/la-noire,56374/

Either way that is irrelevant. If the publication believes that score is justifiable for both versions then why does Metacritic pick and choose?

It is a diservice to those who use Metascores to determine game purchases.


But how whould the site know that both versions are the same without trying both?

To further prove my point regarding GamePro. Check out their review of X360 Bayonetta.
http://www.gamepro.com/article/reviews/213319/bayonetta/
The same review score was added to the PS3 page, even though we know that both versions aren't the same.


Doesn't matter though. The publications intended for their review to be taken as such and who are Metacritic to decide otherwise?

It is no different than Metacritic deciding that IGN's 9.0 is worth more than a 9.0 and that someone elses 9.0 is worth less than a 9.0.

Just like Metacritic randomly deciding an A and an A Plus = 100, A- = 91 and a B Plus = 83.

 

They are seriously ALL over the place. 

I remember a time when X-Play was counted, then they went and criticized Metacritic just like I am doing. All of a sudden their scores weren't worth consideration.

There must be reasons why some sites count, some don't. Why some count more than others and why some count less.

 

Something just doesn't sit right with me when it comes to that site.



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@Euphoria14

I personally agree that they should be added to both version, but sadly that is a rule Metacritic, GameRankings and GameStats have been using for years.

I still do not know why A & A (plus) are both considered 100, or why IGN is weighted more than the other sites. Those are the main reasons why I use GameRankings instead of MC.

As you said, it isn't a big deal and we both shouldn't care about it.



Actually it seems X-Play stopped counting because they actually believed in things the same way I do.

 

"We couldn’t come to an agreement on how they should convert our 5-star system into their 100-point system... They wanted to make it a straight mathematical conversion – but that doesn’t take into account what we actually intended by our review system. So we choose to go separate ways, just like in the Journey song."

 

See, they don't respresent these publications correctly and the Gaming Age review of L.A. Noire is another perfect example. They wanted their score to equal a 70 on Metacritic and Metacritic instead chose to make it a 58.

Clear misrepresentation.

 

@Fab

I know why A and A Plus are 100 and IGN counts more than others.

It is because Metacritic is a joke site and have been trolling us for years!



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Fab_GS said:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/portal-2/critic-reviews

Check again.

 

  • Apr 19, 2011
    90
    Portal 2 expands on everything the first game did so well and makes it even better. Perfectly paced and adorably funny from start to finish, Portal 2 will keep on surprising you and challenge your wit right to the finish. In brief, everyone should play Portal 2, alone or with a friend.
  • Thats for PC and I was talking about gamereactor sweden and not denmark. They do different reviews and sure they are like.. ofcourse related but they don't review the same.

    So follow up question:
    How do they decide what Gamereactor to choose? They just pick one randomly? Seems odd. Same can be said for other companies just like GR on Meta.

     

    Another example

    Take a look at Uncharted 2's review on metacritic by "Absolute Games" who gave it a 8.9

    Then go over to Mass Effect 2 (PS3/360) doesnt matter, you will still not find it. They gave the game a 7.4.

    Its added on the PC version but not the console version(s). How do they do this? I am just confused. Wouldn't the standard choice of where to play it be 360 as they clearly have a PS3 as they reviewed UN2 XD. Guess they could have played on the PC... But the score is for 360/PC >_>



    non-gravity said:

    Mass Effect 2 (PS3) is a late port.

    Portal 2 and LA Noire have not released so long ago and can still grow their number of reviews.

     

    Maybe Gamereactor didn't play the ps3 version of Portal 2 and therefore it didn't get counted. 

    But GR's review is both for PC PS3 and 360. They don't do it differently and they played it on the 360. So wtf?

     

    ME2 doesnt even have absolute games on 360, just on PC. Same situation here? They played it on the PC? GR sure as hell didnt.

     

    Also, the whole "some sites weigh more then others" was new too me also x_x.



    I've always wondered about Famitsu and Metacritic.  I don't see them on there, which is strange as they are among the most well known and major game review publications.




    I agree... Uncharted 2 for exemple has 105 reviews, while Mario galaxy 1 and 2 has 73 and 88 reviews respectively. If Uncharted 2 had 73 or 88 reviews, could very well be at 97 or 98 Metascore.