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I just found this on YouTube.  Looks like an interesting analysis:

It is the Keiser Report, which takes a different look on news.  The total meltdown of paper assets.

 

Here is another one, from earlier in the year:



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I thought you hated libretarians because in a perfect world "they want everyone to die".

Max Kesier basically makes libretarian arguements but then mentions reasons why he doesn't like libretarianism too.

He's basically the economic version of Lyndon Larouche.

Which is likely why his two regular shows are on Russia Today and in iran.

 

As for 50 million americans on foodstamps.  That's only a 13% Increase.  Though yeah... it is just another amazing failure of Keynsian economics.



Kasz216 said:

I thought you hated libretarians because in a perfect world "they want everyone to die".

Max Kesier basically makes libretarian arguements but then mentions reasons why he doesn't like libretarianism too.

He's basically the economic version of Lyndon Larouche.

Which is likely why his two regular shows are on Russia Today and in iran.

 

As for 50 million americans on foodstamps.  That's only a 13% Increase.  Though yeah... it is just another amazing failure of Keynsian economics.

I didn't say I hated Libertarians.  What I had said was that, unless society collectively ends up voluntarily practicing helping the poor, to make sure people have a minimum to survive and become productive, you will have a lot of problems on your hands, and it won't be sustainable, so you will also likely have government involved.  I also have not expressed opposition to the government being a vehicle of to do some of the safety net work.  That is what I said.  What I would be opposed to is an Ayn Rand Objectivist universe where the poor and people in need are supposed to die.  It wasn't in a case of "in a perfect world, they wanted people to die", but in a purely Rand version of a Libertarian universe, a lot of people would die.   So, my views would be more in line with Hayek, who wrote about similar things being needed.  



Kasz216 said:

Which is likely why his two regular shows are on Russia Today and in iran.

Shhhhh! It's called RT now! You're not supposed to know that it's Putinist propaganda!



badgenome said:
Kasz216 said:

Which is likely why his two regular shows are on Russia Today and in iran.

Shhhhh! It's called RT now! You're not supposed to know that it's Putinist propaganda!


It's like how Lyndon Larouche is really big in China.

I'd never heard of it before... looking at it's wikipedia page....

yikes.



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The Dems must be rubbing their hands with glee. 50 million people dependant on Government money (I say Government money, I just mean other people's money... and by that, I mean, other people's money in the future)



SamuelRSmith said:

The Dems must be rubbing their hands with glee. 50 million people dependant on Government money (I say Government money, I just mean other people's money... and by that, I mean, other people's money in the future)

To reduce thoughts of something that is meant to help people to some sort of excuse to engage in the worst possible political partisan insanity there is.  You want to spin it the other way?  Well, how about you go, "The GOP CAN'T wait to see 50 million people end up where they qualify for food stamps, so they can slash the spending and get them thrown out on the street, where they can die of starvation and cull the herd.  This way, only the worthy survive."

Do you SERIOUSLY think either party is sitting in some sort of circle twirling the moustaches and cackling evil, think how they can actually go out of they way to ruin yourself?  Do you REALLY think this?  Do you?

Watch the original videos and then see what you think on this.



Kasz216 said:
badgenome said:
Kasz216 said:

Which is likely why his two regular shows are on Russia Today and in iran.

Shhhhh! It's called RT now! You're not supposed to know that it's Putinist propaganda!


It's like how Lyndon Larouche is really big in China.

I'd never heard of it before... looking at it's wikipedia page....

yikes.

Interesting... It looks like foreign news services look to pull up westerners who have a different perspective on things, and if it can help to reframe the conversation in a way that would benefit their own agenda, they use them.  Now, this perspective could end up being a valid one, but still, it must be what is on their mind.

But. heck. maybe some of the LaRouche league edited the document on there.



richardhutnik said:
SamuelRSmith said:

The Dems must be rubbing their hands with glee. 50 million people dependant on Government money (I say Government money, I just mean other people's money... and by that, I mean, other people's money in the future)

To reduce thoughts of something that is meant to help people to some sort of excuse to engage in the worst possible political partisan insanity there is.  You want to spin it the other way?  Well, how about you go, "The GOP CAN'T wait to see 50 million people end up where they qualify for food stamps, so they can slash the spending and get them thrown out on the street, where they can die of starvation and cull the herd.  This way, only the worthy survive."

Do you SERIOUSLY think either party is sitting in some sort of circle twirling the moustaches and cackling evil, think how they can actually go out of they way to ruin yourself?  Do you REALLY think this?  Do you?

Watch the original videos and then see what you think on this.

No, I don't think it is the intention, but I do think there will be Dems that see this as a positive going into the next election. I mean, look at Detroit... that is one of the most reliant cities in the country for Government money, and it's also a fairly safe Democrat city.

It's the same thing here, in the UK, the areas most reliant on Government money - inner-cities, Scotland/Wales, many parts of Northern England are the ones that tend to vote Labour, and the areas least reliant on the Government are likely to vote Conservative.

At the end of the day, if you're on any kind of welfare... who are you going to vote for? The guys who want to protect/expand it, or the guys wanting reduce/remove it? There WILL be people within the inner-coffers of the Democrat party who see this as a good thing.

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Also, your example was very different to what I said. I said that Democrats would see this as a positive thing, as it aids them politically... you basically made out that Republicans want to kill poor people for the sake of it.



richardhutnik said:
Kasz216 said:
badgenome said:
Kasz216 said:

Which is likely why his two regular shows are on Russia Today and in iran.

Shhhhh! It's called RT now! You're not supposed to know that it's Putinist propaganda!


It's like how Lyndon Larouche is really big in China.

I'd never heard of it before... looking at it's wikipedia page....

yikes.

Interesting... It looks like foreign news services look to pull up westerners who have a different perspective on things, and if it can help to reframe the conversation in a way that would benefit their own agenda, they use them.  Now, this perspective could end up being a valid one, but still, it must be what is on their mind.

But. heck. maybe some of the LaRouche league edited the document on there.

LaRouche is working for the Chinese as far as i know... and also agrees with everything this guy says economically.