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Well, I'm 99.9% sure that Cafe will be awesome to me, but then again I liked the Cube even more than I like the Wii...

But I'm confident that Cafe will outperform Gamecube sales-wise.  Whether or not it will reach Wii's sales numbers remains to be seen, but here's to hoping it does even better.



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To me, the real question for Cafe is the hard drive.

That will make or break the system for 3rd parties.

No HDD = no DLC (or forced on-disc DLC) = No significant stream of additional income for major publishers.

That will have a significant effect on the market. If Nintendo doesn't ensure it has the ability to expand the HDD, it will always be a crippled console for content.

Not trying to bash at Cafe, the rest is fine and looks exciting. However, next generation will be heavily online-dependent. If Nintendo doesn't offer a lot of space for content, then they aren't going to entice developers to multi-plat to their system. If they have a good, expandable HDD system (not flash unless its >32gb), then it should be very interesting and good for Nintendo.

However, given Nintendo's track record with online, I am very fearful Cafe will see a reduced market share, selling between 50m and 70m consoles.



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mrstickball said:

To me, the real question for Cafe is the hard drive.

That will make or break the system for 3rd parties.

No HDD = no DLC (or forced on-disc DLC) = No significant stream of additional income for major publishers.

That will have a significant effect on the market. If Nintendo doesn't ensure it has the ability to expand the HDD, it will always be a crippled console for content.

Not trying to bash at Cafe, the rest is fine and looks exciting. However, next generation will be heavily online-dependent. If Nintendo doesn't offer a lot of space for content, then they aren't going to entice developers to multi-plat to their system. If they have a good, expandable HDD system (not flash unless its >32gb), then it should be very interesting and good for Nintendo.

However, given Nintendo's track record with online, I am very fearful Cafe will see a reduced market share, selling between 50m and 70m consoles.

Yes, and lets hope 3rd parties have let Nintendo know about this problem, seeing as how Nintendo has been talking to a lot of 3rd parties lately . . .



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theARTIST0017 said:
mrstickball said:

To me, the real question for Cafe is the hard drive.

That will make or break the system for 3rd parties.

No HDD = no DLC (or forced on-disc DLC) = No significant stream of additional income for major publishers.

That will have a significant effect on the market. If Nintendo doesn't ensure it has the ability to expand the HDD, it will always be a crippled console for content.

Not trying to bash at Cafe, the rest is fine and looks exciting. However, next generation will be heavily online-dependent. If Nintendo doesn't offer a lot of space for content, then they aren't going to entice developers to multi-plat to their system. If they have a good, expandable HDD system (not flash unless its >32gb), then it should be very interesting and good for Nintendo.

However, given Nintendo's track record with online, I am very fearful Cafe will see a reduced market share, selling between 50m and 70m consoles.

Yes, and lets hope 3rd parties have let Nintendo know about this problem, seeing as how Nintendo has been talking to a lot of 3rd parties lately . . .

Agreed. I hope they can fix this potential issue before it begins. SD cards and flash drives are not the way to fix this issue. Nintendo will easily recoup the costs of a legitimate HDD via download fees on games and DLC which could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars on the next Nintendo system.



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Metallicube said:
TomaTito said:

To the people who say it's just going to be an Xbox/PS3, remember this last year.

"For us high definition by itself is not the nextfrontier, [...] we need to provide a whole new compelling experience in our next generation."

What is that experience? Let's find out at E3.

Hopefully it's not just the DC style screen on a controller.

Guess we'll find out soon. Freakin E3 can't get here soon enough!

I doubt that's all they have to offer. The screen on a controller thing looks extremely gimmicky (other than the potential to stream games around the house, but by itself that's too small a feature to warrant a new console).

Why gimmicky? Because no one wants to be looking back and forth between the TV and the controller every so often. It would be almost as annoying as it is when one's playing on the PC and has to look away to find a key on the keyboard. So it would have to be used quite rarely, which makes it a gimmick by definition.



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padib said:
NJ5 said:
Metallicube said:
TomaTito said:

To the people who say it's just going to be an Xbox/PS3, remember this last year.

"For us high definition by itself is not the nextfrontier, [...] we need to provide a whole new compelling experience in our next generation."

What is that experience? Let's find out at E3.

Hopefully it's not just the DC style screen on a controller.

Guess we'll find out soon. Freakin E3 can't get here soon enough!

I doubt that's all they have to offer. The screen on a controller thing looks extremely gimmicky (other than the potential to stream games around the house, but by itself that's too small a feature to warrant a new console).

Why gimmicky? Because no one wants to be looking back and forth between the TV and the controller every so often. It would be almost as annoying as it is when one's playing on the PC and has to look away to find a key on the keyboard. So it would have to be used quite rarely, which makes it a gimmick by definition.

But Crystal Chronicles and 4 swords were good examples of this not being gimmicky. It add depth to the maps and live-actions.


I guess those would be the exceptions that confirm the rule...

If Nintendo launches a new console where the only differences vs the Wii are better graphics and the screen controller thing, I think people will care more about the better graphics than the screen.



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Well we barely know anything about Cafe, so I wait and see. I'm pretty sure I will like it anyway, to me consoles themselves aren't all that important, the games are! Although, the experience could be a major factor too, but Nintendo most of the time comes up with awesome stuff. But it's understandable that it is important how Cafe turns out for companies/devs.