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Bong Lover on 23 May 2011
sapphi_snake said:

Aren't you going by the assumption that we know everything there is to know about the "physical" universe, and how it allegedly works?


Not in the least! For example, current knowledge of quantum mechanics introduces something called the unpredictability theory or something along those lines, stating that we can't ever know the precise position several electrons or something like that. I am not good at quantum physics so my appologies to anyone who are.

The point is that if we assume that the universe is purely mechanical, then it will be forced to work according to the rules of mechanics, even if we don't know these rules yet. It also follows that the universe then is deterministic, we just can't predict it. And it follows that free will does not really exsist with all the consequences that has for ethics.

If we find out that there are physical laws that have a will of their own that would be proof of the exsistence of 'God' in some form, wouldn't you say?



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sapphi_snake on 23 May 2011
Bong Lover said:
sapphi_snake said:

Aren't you going by the assumption that we know everything there is to know about the "physical" universe, and how it allegedly works?


Not in the least! For example, current knowledge of quantum mechanics introduces something called the unpredictability theory or something along those lines, stating that we can't ever know the precise position several electrons or something like that. I am not good at quantum physics so my appologies to anyone who are.

The point is that if we assume that the universe is purely mechanical, then it will be forced to work according to the rules of mechanics, even if we don't know these rules yet. It also follows that the universe then is deterministic, we just can't predict it. And it follows that free will does not really exsist with all the consequences that has for ethics.

If we find out that there are physical laws that have a will of their own that would be proof of the exsistence of 'God' in some form, wouldn't you say?

But if the physical laws have their own will, how would that change the fact that something's controlling us?



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Bong Lover on 23 May 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Bong Lover said:
sapphi_snake said:

Aren't you going by the assumption that we know everything there is to know about the "physical" universe, and how it allegedly works?


Not in the least! For example, current knowledge of quantum mechanics introduces something called the unpredictability theory or something along those lines, stating that we can't ever know the precise position several electrons or something like that. I am not good at quantum physics so my appologies to anyone who are.

The point is that if we assume that the universe is purely mechanical, then it will be forced to work according to the rules of mechanics, even if we don't know these rules yet. It also follows that the universe then is deterministic, we just can't predict it. And it follows that free will does not really exsist with all the consequences that has for ethics.

If we find out that there are physical laws that have a will of their own that would be proof of the exsistence of 'God' in some form, wouldn't you say?

But if the physical laws have their own will, how would that change the fact that something's controlling us?


If they do, then something could possibly be controlling us. But if they do, it is also possible that we could have a will of our own, right?



sapphi_snake on 24 May 2011
Bong Lover said:
sapphi_snake said:
Bong Lover said:
sapphi_snake said:

Aren't you going by the assumption that we know everything there is to know about the "physical" universe, and how it allegedly works?


Not in the least! For example, current knowledge of quantum mechanics introduces something called the unpredictability theory or something along those lines, stating that we can't ever know the precise position several electrons or something like that. I am not good at quantum physics so my appologies to anyone who are.

The point is that if we assume that the universe is purely mechanical, then it will be forced to work according to the rules of mechanics, even if we don't know these rules yet. It also follows that the universe then is deterministic, we just can't predict it. And it follows that free will does not really exsist with all the consequences that has for ethics.

If we find out that there are physical laws that have a will of their own that would be proof of the exsistence of 'God' in some form, wouldn't you say?

But if the physical laws have their own will, how would that change the fact that something's controlling us?


If they do, then something could possibly be controlling us. But if they do, it is also possible that we could have a will of our own, right?

Maybe. There's just something that seems off with what you're saying.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)