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@lordtheknight  IMHO your right about CT and FF6, but those were big games in there days and most of the people who are interested would have already played it at some point, hell i know i have. and all the people i know too, but im sure there are some who are gonna get it anyway, more power to them. Mega Man X your right i wasnt taking into account of Wii only owners, yeah its much better to get it on WIiWare the GC one is expensiva as hell for some reason.

MDK i was just saying i got it.  Fast is a game that looks like a lower res version of WIpeout HD, a game i already own so i have not reason to be interested in it. Im not going to support something just cause i feel pity for them or give them some sales, BS i have to want the game.  It worries me that you bring up VC as people liking it over the PSN & XBLs which i can concede, but you dont find that worrisome that the best thing (arguably) about WiiWare is a bunch of roms of much older games? Where the HDs & PCs are getting good original content all the time (even some older games in the case of PSN). It would be easier and cheaper to just ROM up those older games, thats just my outlook. VC does nothing for me cause i have those games on ROM, would like some more N64 titles though.



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Wii will do well enough for Nintendo by continuing what partially made it a success - legs. It's the same old titles still selling - you only have to look at the MK bundle to see where the onus is. I do not expect that many surprises for E3 2011 or 2012 for that matter. I'm with trestres; while I looked at his 2008 comments with sceptisism, as the years went on and the games list got shorter, he was right.

I can't see Cafe being a third party monster so I expect the big announcements to be for Cafe, not Wii (unless they doubled the dev teams)



oniyide said:

^^^ i see what your doing and i love the enthusiam but lets keep it real half those games are not worth a crap on WiiWare.  Chrono Trigger has been rereleased twice already, if you are that big of a fan you should have either gotten it on PS1 or DS, no excuse. Mega Man x IMHO i would just pay the extra money and get the collection, but thats just me. FF6 is another game that has been rerealesed multiply times so you should already own that. Got MDK 2, FAST looks like a poor man's Wipeout. MotoHeroez sounds good. The reason why people say WiiWare has not hits is because, well it has little hits, alot of gamers are multiplat owners and compared to PSN & XBL libraries, WiiWare aint crap, im sorry to say but thats just it. Why invest in WiiWare points when i could invest in the others and they have more consistent releases and better games???

OT i'll believe it when i see it. Xenoblade, Last Story, P's Tower, Vitality Sensor, those arent surprises, we already know about them a surprise would be, oh i dont know makeing a freaking real Mario Tennis or Golf, or even better how abotu localzing Fatal Frame, they let those weak ass shovelware titles made by some c grade devs, but not the actual good horror series??? When it was on PS2 they got localized. 

What the hell made you even write that long-winded reply in the first place!?

Half a wall of text just to say my post isn't relevant to you and that you already have enough good games to keep you busy on other platforms! Well first of all you don't have to post every thought that goes through your head, in fact we'd appreciate it.. and second of all if you've got so many good games to play then stop wasting everybody's time by bashing a console which isn't your main source of entertainment anyway. It does nothing but give the impression you enjoy complaining more than actually playing games to begin with.

Negativity gets you nowhere unless your sole purpose is to bum-out others, in which case you're a troll.



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oniyide said:

@lordtheknight  IMHO your right about CT and FF6, but those were big games in there days and most of the people who are interested would have already played it at some point, hell i know i have. and all the people i know too, but im sure there are some who are gonna get it anyway, more power to them. Mega Man X your right i wasnt taking into account of Wii only owners, yeah its much better to get it on WIiWare the GC one is expensiva as hell for some reason.

MDK i was just saying i got it.  Fast is a game that looks like a lower res version of WIpeout HD, a game i already own so i have not reason to be interested in it. Im not going to support something just cause i feel pity for them or give them some sales, BS i have to want the game.  It worries me that you bring up VC as people liking it over the PSN & XBLs which i can concede, but you dont find that worrisome that the best thing (arguably) about WiiWare is a bunch of roms of much older games? Where the HDs & PCs are getting good original content all the time (even some older games in the case of PSN). It would be easier and cheaper to just ROM up those older games, thats just my outlook. VC does nothing for me cause i have those games on ROM, would like some more N64 titles though.


Actually, I find the same applies to PSN and XBLA. The best games are the classics.

As for the Wipeout comment, I got confused and thought you were mentioning MDK with it instead of another game.



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I didn't buy MDK2 back in its times, but MDK was one of my first PC games and I found it excellent (except the small on-rails sections like the parachute jumping ones at the beginning of each level). Classics never get old. And actually, reading in this thread they ported it to Wii quite surprised me.   



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EssosDeeos said:

Wii will do well enough for Nintendo by continuing what partially made it a success - legs. It's the same old titles still selling - you only have to look at the MK bundle to see where the onus is. I do not expect that many surprises for E3 2011 or 2012 for that matter. I'm with trestres; while I looked at his 2008 comments with sceptisism, as the years went on and the games list got shorter, he was right.

I can't see Cafe being a third party monster so I expect the big announcements to be for Cafe, not Wii (unless they doubled the dev teams)


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@gumby_trucker  you mad, bro??? where did i bash the WIi??? you just went off without even addressing anything i said, at least LTK let me know his problems with my views

@lordtheknight  "Actually, I find the same applies to PSN and XBLA. The best games are the classics." fair enough

@trestres i have to agree with you too. I hope we're wrong and something cool does come



oniyide said:

@gumby_trucker  you mad, bro??? where did i bash the WIi??? you just went off without even addressing anything i said, at least LTK let me know his problems with my views

@lordtheknight  "Actually, I find the same applies to PSN and XBLA. The best games are the classics." fair enough

@trestres i have to agree with you too. I hope we're wrong and something cool does come

I think my point was very clear, but in case it wasn't I'll do the nice thing and elaborate.

You are a multiple console owner, which means you have the time and money to invest in more than one platform in order to have more options when it comes to games. That is good. However many people do not have such a privilege on account of having other costs to cover (such as living) and other things to spend time on (like school, family, a job, social life, other hobbies... take your pick).

These hypothetical people might also not have had the time to acquire multiple copies of classic games on past platforms and play through them ad nauseam. In fact, as you know, to many the Wii may be their first console, or at least their first console in a long while (so called "lapsed gamers"). That is the way it was intended to be from the beginning, you can find quotes from Iwata on this as far back as 2005.

All that is pretty basic knowledge, and I'm sure is nothing new to you. Would anyone be super excited about FAST if they have been playing Wipeout HD for years already? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the answer is: not likely. Would anyone care about FF6 or Chrono Trigger if they already own them multiple times and have played through them enough to know them by heart? Once again, I'm sure you can figure out the answer on your own.

With that painfully obvious premise out of the way, I think it is understandable that my original post was not meant for you, and therefor your response was unnecessary and contributed nothing to the discussion.

On a personal note, I for one am sick of this aura of pessimism surrounding anything that has to do with the Wii. Constructive, intelligent criticism is always welcome. Frustration over the lack of expected games is understandable. But if they become the norm from a platform owner rather than the exception, then the obvious conclusion should be to sell your Wii and its games in order to afford a console that has games you like. Or better yet get multiple consoles as in your case. At that point you should be a pretty satisfied customer, and I'd expect the amount of negativity in your posts to diminish since you'd be more satisfied as a consumer.

Building an online community takes effort, and that effort should be (mostly) spent in trying to bring people together via constructive means. As an example, take a look at any of the threads by smeags, who is always trying to bring unbiased awareness to the positive aspects of any game or system. This is the kind of thing that helps a product find its audience, as opposed to calling it "not worth a crap" which is neither informative nor helpful.

Why anybody would want to spend their time giving only non-constructive criticism is beyond me. If you don't care enough to be constructive, why post in the first place? If you are trying to be cynical in order to make a point about Wii as a system, you are 3 years too late.
Finally, if you don't bother checking out reviews for games on WiiWare, how do you expect to know if there is anything "worth a crap" on the service? (granted the lack of a proper demo service is a major issue, but that is precisely why we have reviews and online communities to begin with - in order to inform).

It is these many reasons which lead me to question whether or not your posts have a point. And posting pointlessly is the same as wasting other people's time IMO.

That is really everything I can possibly say on the matter...



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FAST trailer is here:

http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/dB9DcCopHtWwVwPvXoG9407rrRy04wRt

Releases May 27th in EU and May 30th in US



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gumby_trucker said:

FAST trailer is here:

http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/dB9DcCopHtWwVwPvXoG9407rrRy04wRt

Releases May 27th in EU and May 30th in US


Anyone else get the trailer stopping and basically resetting halfway through?



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