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Vetteman94 said:
theprof00 said:

vette and trucks and heph and stefl and wonk, can I please get your opinions on my suspects via the potals? You're all online and I'd really like to get this day over with.

DO we lynch linkz, or is there a better option? If there is a better option, would you consider notstan or ST?

As for your suspects.  I share your suspicions on Silver-Tiger and NotStan, Linkz and I would have no problem lynching any of them today. Final-Fan I'm not really getting much of a scum vibe from, despite that he seems to want my head.  And Wildvine I cant get a good read on,  he could be a first timer scum trying to lay low or he could be overwhelmed by all the situations and avoiding talking about them for fear of making a mistake and looking like scum.

I wouldnt have a problem lynching NotStan or Silver_Tiger if there was a change in votes.  Otherwise I still feel comfortable lynching Linkz


You share the suspicions on me? Could you elaborate on this or are parroting what prof and 3ever said?



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GodOfWar_3ever said:

Whoops a small mistake, edited in BOLD ^^^


just quote the part you edit.... cause that was damn near impossible to find. (and it did look like a typo)

 

for the others, he meant it was looking less likely that ST was town, not the opposit.



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theprof00 said:
Silver-Tiger said:
theprof00 said:
Silver-Tiger said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I'm afraid I'd have much new to bring up about Silver-Tiger. Yes his vote came at a moment where it could be considered bandwagoning but the most interesting thing I got from what I reread is that his unvote could easily read like him telling his teammate to please drop the act and say he read his PM.

I'd would advise him to finally read your PM, before things get dirty, I don't want that we loose a possible townie because he because of such a needless discussion.

Not much I know but I'm tired and that's all I've got right now.

I imagine people are trying to use this against me, so I will address this as soon as possible.

Yes, this was a hint goddammit, but not because either he or me is scum. I really don't like going into detail.

Why did you vote for linkz in the first place?

And why did you wait until L-1 to unvote?


wouldn't it a bit obvious if I defended him the whole time?

And if I knew it would go to L1, I would have unvoted earlier. By the time I checked back in, He was already at L1.

I want to know what linkz thinks about this.

Nothing's changed since I read my PM. I do not know ST's alignment, but his whole behavior towards me leads me to think he is the most probable town, besides myself and Wonk. His not wanting to say more because it would give scum information also makes sense to me. If he and I are both alive tomorrow I'm certain I could get a definitie enough read that I wouldn't be further swayed.(By behavior, not a day/night action)



Linkzmax said:

Nothing's changed since I read my PM. I do not know ST's alignment, but his whole behavior towards me leads me to think he is the most probable town, besides myself and Wonk. His not wanting to say more because it would give scum information also makes sense to me. If he and I are both alive tomorrow I'm certain I could get a definitie enough read that I wouldn't be further swayed.(By behavior, not a day/night action)


you just rulled out Massons and siblings (town).... so that means there is really no reason for ST to "hint" anything about you as we did not have a night and therefore he doesn't have priviledged information (the only town roles that could are the ones you just dismissed).



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Hephaestos said:
Linkzmax said:

I'm not claiming nor denying the role(Neither in fact, though other options exist as well), but I am curious. How does one go about being a bomb and warning town, while still trying to not become avoided by a scum kill and thus always the lingering question mark and likely cause for a town loss?

a confirmed town bomb a stump would be a very likely town win... I doubt we have both

There is no way to confirm a bomb though. The town aspect sure, but there's no way for anyone but the bomb to know for certain that they're actually a bomb. Counters also exist for bombs.(mafia role scanner, townie hammer, poison, or even specialized roles)



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Hephaestos said:
Linkzmax said:
Hephaestos said:
Linkzmax said:

1) Anyone that's observant in Mafia should know who I mean, and as I said it's not the end of the world if it goes misunderstood. The player is likely to mess up on their own in my opinion.

2) So then when I flip town and if there was no vig(or he didn't listen) you'll do what should be done today anyway and get him lynched?


it goes without saying but i'm finding #2 to be in need of a rethinking :p

Indeed. I will still flip town, but I'm no longer saying Vette should be lynched, in fact he probably should never be lynched. If there is a Vig he should avoid shooting Vette as well.

Actually I still don't like his reaction to the whole thing and your indictement of him when you were at L-1...in fact the point where you voted mentioned only his no lynch habits, not the PM thing, so it's odd that you're completely against it now.

Neither do I because he continues to dodge how "all" doesn't include "current" and to bring back a grammar lesson the wording did not signify it was only refering to the past.("have" was used instead of "had")

Yes, the PM thing was the main determining factor in my mind, but since I didn't want to cause further PM talk I found a different reason to signify my vote. The no lynch habits is still a valid reason why he shouldn't be voting for me, but not really that indicitave of being scum.



Linkzmax said:

Wonktonodi said:

Didn't know bomb could only be a pro town role. So that does make it much much less likely. Even with all the abominations we have seen in these games I'm pretty sure you are right.

I explained to you that bomb is pro-town last round. It's funny to me that you think a pro-town player is very unlikely to have a pro-town role though.


I don't recall the bomb talk last round and as I said I didn't know it was only a pro town role. In the wiki at least.

I don't think you are pro town. As when I was speculating you being a mafia bomb I think it is possible you are scum. Although even if not scum I don't think you are pro town by putting your amusement of not reading your role PM until night over what would be best for the town.



I don't have time to do up votals right now, since I have to leave for work right now, and then have league golf, so it will be quite some time before I'm back.  ABC, if you have time, can you tally up the new votes?



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Silver-Tiger said:

GodOfWar_3ever said:

Normal - Me, Italics - ST, Bold - Me

And do you guys really think there'd be another anti-town killing role (other than the mafia) in a game of 13 people, and an unkillable tree stump ? Seems a bit far fetched to me.

Again, I was talking about possibilities. Learn to read.

I was saying that possibilty is probably wrong. No need to get so worked up about it.

I do read all the posts, but you have to understand that sometimes I can miss some facts. Firstly, English isn't my first language, and secondly, do you really perceive ALL posts? We're at around 700 posts now, do you really want to tell me you have all these posts in your head? I missed the post of Linkz, because my browser automatically jumps to the newest unread posts, and somehow It slipped over the unread posts. Again, I apologize for missing that, and I really try to pay better attention now, but that is no proof that I'm scum.

No, I don't have all 700 posts in my head. English isn't my first language either. And, I'm pretty sure VGC forums are designed so that the browser is automatically scrolled to the first new post since your last visit, and not the newest post. I think you may have missed Linkz' post because you didn't bother reading it, like mafia who is lazy ? But that somehow hit a softspot, and theorizing about it made your suspicion of me fly through the roof ? Why ? Because I suspect you ? Is it really that ridiculous ? 

Final-Fan said:

If I think Linkz is probably town, would it be wrong to lynch him on the strength of his own comments that it might be for the best? 

I know is some games, I've voted for people, who in the back of my mind, I knew were probably pro-town. And I'd always say go with your gut feeling. But I'm a sucker for lynches, and have been involved in mislynches in the past where I knew what I was doing was probably wrong. I didn't feel that way about linkz before...but I'm starting to get that feeling (probably because day one is being dragged on for waay to long). But I'd say, because him being a bomb not making sense given his character and the first quote in this post which strikes me as odd, I'd keep my vote on him, unless I can convince the rest of you that silver-tiger is scum (due to his ignorance, amongst other things mentioned in this very post). 

The magic word here is convince. As town, you would need to proove that I'm scum, but that won't be possible, since I'm not scum. But a mafia member like you doesn't need proof. You only need to convince the town to lynch one of their own, right?

I love how you say English isn't your first language, yet you try to turn my post on you against me by pointing out "convince". If I have proof, that I think is sufficient, but others think isn't, it would be hard to convince to them that you are scum. There, I said it again. I need to convince the town that you are overreacting, but that shouldn't be too hard now. Convince me that you're not.

Wonktonodi said:
Silver-Tiger said:


wouldn't it a bit obvious if I defended him the whole time?

And if I knew it would go to L1, I would have unvoted earlier. By the time I checked back in, He was already at L1.


you're vote put him at L2 what were you expecting it to do?  Also why did it take you more that 7 minutes to unvote him. Since if he was at "L1" when you saw it that would have been before hephs unvote. Yet your unvote was 7 minutes later?

This is just amazing... My thoughts on Silver-Tiger are definitely not improving in the positive direction. 

What part of my post here is giving you headaches?

Not your post, but the fact that you voted and unvoted for someone 7 minutes later. Makes you wonder of that person's alignment too :/


So to sum it up, my suspicion for you just went to the roof. You accuse me for ridiculous things. I assume that know you noticed Linkz may not be lynched, you're looking for an alternative.

To sum it up, you are overreacted because of my suspicion towards you. 

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