Well you're wrong about both, because I have still yet to read my role PM. I did receive a second PM, which I believe ABC sent because with all of the votes he may have thought I would roleclaim. I've received two more that's just been chatting with ABC basically, but I bet you aren't going to believe that either.

Bigass post where Linkz nameclaimed, hinted at being a bomb and voted vetteman.

1.)No, I did not forget the conversation. What I meant is that Niko Bellic is scum and Dimitri Rascalov (or whatever his name was) is town. It's a misunderstanding and I'm sorry, I worded that terribly.

2.)Of course I know my alignment, I'm pro-town. I read my PM after all.....

As for the third-party, yes, it's possible that there is a cult or SK. I'm asking you, why not? Does it seem that unlikely that in a GTA-themed game there is a serial killer or a cult? I did not imply that you have on of these roles, I just clarified that these roles my exist in this game.

Dude, you do know I was talking about last game right?

Wait, where did you got that information from?

If I think Linkz is probably town, would it be wrong to lynch him on the strength of his own comments that it might be for the best? 

I think that everyone under 25 posts should try to post a little more and 10 is just too little so GoW should post a lot more...

you're vote put him at L2 what were you expecting it to do?  Also why did it take you more that 7 minutes to unvote him. Since if he was at "L1" when you saw it that would have been before hephs unvote. Yet your unvote was 7 minutes later?

I would of thought you'd use Kratos as an MK avatar ^^

I can't believe I didn't notice this before. Either I'm really stupid and I'm missing something, or this is a slip up. How would someone roleclaim without reading his role PM ? And why would a mod decide to butt into the game to stop someone from role-claiming, when the repercussions of doing so are given in one of the first posts in this thread. This is really fishy, and I think more than justifies the fact that you're very close to being lynched right now.

Ahhh...hinting at being a bomb. Sheer mafia desperation or the truth...or both (o_o) ? I find it a little hard to believe its desperation that you thought was necesarry, since you were stuck at L-2 for a very long time...and it didn't look as if you were gonna be lynched at the time (but maybe you finally got sick of all the pressure) . But, I'd like to point out that you were at L-1 once (when you hadn't read your PM). If you were hammered at the time, and is pro-town, and is telling the truth, you would've taken someone with you..and possibly a townie too. I hope you see that what you did by not reading your PM was wrong. But the previous quote I made about you still bothers me. I think there is a good chance that you are lying, and you seem to be the least likely to be a mislynch out of those who I think are possible lynch targets right now.

And according to GTA IV flavour, IIRC (haven't played that game since I platinum'd it...yeah...I played more than 40 hours of boredom online) Bernie is pre-occupied with getting married to some politician who is married to a woman to be involved with bombs. The only bomb I can see him being is a sex bomb :P 

What you say about vetteman is very valid though, as I pointed out...vetteman up for a day 1 lynch is odd..the dude is ridiculous enough to attempt no lynches on day 2, let alone day 1. 

Also on vette, I think heph, ff and wildvine dragged the whole "when i have pro-town roles" thing a bit too far..cause (maybe its because i'm not a native english speaker) i didn't think there was a slip up there.. and neither did many others since most others didn't seem interested in that.

There is no way in fucking hell anyone can justify Dimitri Rascolov being pro-town. NO FUCKING WAY. He is, and always be EVIL. End of Discussion. By this I assume you mean that you have a role of a character that might be considered to be EVIL in GTA IV ? Niko might kill people, but so does almost EVERY character in GTA IV, and flavour hints at Niko being pro-town.

FoS Silver-Tiger

And do you guys really think there'd be another anti-town killing role (other than the mafia) in a game of 13 people, and an unkillable tree stump ? Seems a bit far fetched to me.

Maybe Silver-Tiger didn't bother to read properly because he is scum :P I know that sounds really stupid, but its certainly an issue. Also, I'd like to point out that the amount of people who didn't read the post where linkz nameclaimed is disturbing.

Who didn't read that post ? Lets observe -

Hephaestos did, but he noticed it later. Silver-Tiger (again) on the other hand didn't read it, and questioned heph where he was getting that info from in the post where he noticed that linkz had roleclaimed. See below -

Silver-Tiger...If you're pro-town, read the damn posts or GTFO. If you're not pro-town (looking less [EDIT : Should be MORE likely] likely by the minute) then please die. Maybe we can make that happen ? If linkz's lynch doesn't happen, I'd definitely want to see you lynched today. But fuck that, because you people never support my lynch targets. Ever. Maybe its because I was a bit crazy in the earlier rounds, but I've made a conscious effort to be less of that in this round. 

I'm posting these as I go on reading the thread, so I'll update my previous FoS to

HoS Silver-Tiger

Also, Silver-Tiger, I understand this post is HUGE...but try to read it :P

I know is some games, I've voted for people, who in the back of my mind, I knew were probably pro-town. And I'd always say go with your gut feeling. But I'm a sucker for lynches, and have been involved in mislynches in the past where I knew what I was doing was probably wrong. I didn't feel that way about linkz before...but I'm starting to get that feeling (probably because day one is being dragged on for waay to long). But I'd say, because him being a bomb not making sense given his character and the first quote in this post which strikes me as odd, I'd keep my vote on him, unless I can convince the rest of you that silver-tiger is scum (due to his ignorance, amongst other things mentioned in this very post). 

But with ABC butting in every once in a while to this thread, I think there might be a possibilty that linkz wasn't lying about his 2nd PM from ABC. I don't know what to think anymore. ARGH !!!

IF,

1. I didn't multiquote and make such bigass posts

2. Had a stable internet connection yesterday

3. Post random/impatient bullshit that adds nothing to the discussion

4. Wonder out loud

I would've had more posts. I think these "POTALS" don't mean jackshit. I've contributed more than people who come in here, make a single lined post and disappear every 2 hours or so. (Ex - zarx, wildvine, notstan)

On topic of those 3, I'd say wildvine and zarx have higher possibilities of being scum. I believe notstan is just a little noobish. But maybe its because he hasn't posted much since I started reading this thread I feel that way...hmmm..

This is just amazing... My thoughts on Silver-Tiger are definitely not improving in the positive direction. 

Oh this is interesting. 

Time limits - zarx, notstan, and final-fan want time limits. ALL 3 of them have voted No Lynch right now. Maybe if you manned up to take a risk and vote for linkz, especially since some of you probably wanted to, you wouldn't need a time limit right now. It also makes me wonder if they voted no lynch to try and stay away from the action and slip under the radar in the event that linkz is a mislynch, and are probably anxious to get to the night.

I take back what I said about notstan. He popped up to vote for a time limit, and didn't comment on anything else. Smells like mafia eager to get to the night, to prevent his scum tell from leaking out. Actually, its true for all 3 of these players, but notstan the most, with zarx close behind.

I'm a god of war fan. I'm a mortal kombat fan. But I'm not a god of war in mortal kombat fan. Kratos is a pretty cool bonus character to screw around with I guess. But I like mk for the mk characters, especially sub-zero, kitana and reptile. I don't need to see kratos' bald ass everywhere i go :P

Also, on the topic on MK, I'd like to host a MK game again. Yes, we already had one. But (no offense to nen-suer) it didn't reach its full potential given the rich lore of MK, and it had a lot of crappy post UMK3 characters. Anyone up for that ?

These are the hints I gave to the town, especially for the second one every lights should have turned on. Every mafia player should know what i mean.

What do you mean too hot for scum?

vette and trucks and heph and stefl and wonk, can I please get your opinions on my suspects via the potals? You're all online and I'd really like to get this day over with.

DO we lynch linkz, or is there a better option? If there is a better option, would you consider notstan or ST?

There is no way in fucking hell anyone can justify Dimitri Rascolov being pro-town. NO FUCKING WAY. He is, and always be EVIL. End of Discussion. By this I assume you mean that you have a role of a character that might be considered to be EVIL in GTA IV ? Niko might kill people, but so does almost EVERY character in GTA IV, and flavour hints at Niko being pro-town.

Need I remind of this?:

"Tip-Roles may be fitting in some cases, but they do not equal alignment. Just because someone is "Ultra evil villian of doom" in the theme, doesn't mean he's anti town in the game. Also this game is super powered."

I was a theory, and no, I don't have a role that is considered "evil" in the GTA universe. You're right that the flavour hints at Niko being pro-town, though.

FoS Silver-Tiger

And do you guys really think there'd be another anti-town killing role (other than the mafia) in a game of 13 people, and an unkillable tree stump ? Seems a bit far fetched to me.

Again, I was talking about possibilities. Learn to read.

Maybe Silver-Tiger didn't bother to read properly because he is scum :P I know that sounds really stupid, but its certainly an issue. Also, I'd like to point out that the amount of people who didn't read the post where linkz nameclaimed is disturbing.

Who didn't read that post ? Lets observe -

Hephaestos did, but he noticed it later. Silver-Tiger (again) on the other hand didn't read it, and questioned heph where he was getting that info from in the post where he noticed that linkz had roleclaimed. See below -

Silver-Tiger...If you're pro-town, read the damn posts or GTFO. If you're not pro-town (looking less likely by the minute) then please die. Maybe we can make that happen ? If linkz's lynch doesn't happen, I'd definitely want to see you lynched today. But fuck that, because you people never support my lynch targets. Ever. Maybe its because I was a bit crazy in the earlier rounds, but I've made a conscious effort to be less of that in this round. 

I'm posting these as I go on reading the thread, so I'll update my previous FoS to

HoS Silver-Tiger

Also, Silver-Tiger, I understand this post is HUGE...but try to read it :P

I do read all the posts, but you have to understand that sometimes I can miss some facts. Firstly, English isn't my first language, and secondly, do you really perceive ALL posts? We're at around 700 posts now, do you really want to tell me you have all these posts in your head? I missed the post of Linkz, because my browser automatically jumps to the newest unread posts, and somehow It slipped over the unread posts. Again, I apologize for missing that, and I really try to pay better attention now, but that is no proof that I'm scum.

I know is some games, I've voted for people, who in the back of my mind, I knew were probably pro-town. And I'd always say go with your gut feeling. But I'm a sucker for lynches, and have been involved in mislynches in the past where I knew what I was doing was probably wrong. I didn't feel that way about linkz before...but I'm starting to get that feeling (probably because day one is being dragged on for waay to long). But I'd say, because him being a bomb not making sense given his character and the first quote in this post which strikes me as odd, I'd keep my vote on him, unless I can convince the rest of you that silver-tiger is scum (due to his ignorance, amongst other things mentioned in this very post). 

The magic word here is convince. As town, you would need to proove that I'm scum, but that won't be possible, since I'm not scum. But a mafia member like you doesn't need proof. You only need to convince the town to lynch one of their own, right?

But with ABC butting in every once in a while to this thread, I think there might be a possibilty that linkz wasn't lying about his 2nd PM from ABC. I don't know what to think anymore. ARGH !!!

IF,

1. I didn't multiquote and make such bigass posts

2. Had a stable internet connection yesterday

3. Post random/impatient bullshit that adds nothing to the discussion

4. Wonder out loud

I would've had more posts. I think these "POTALS" don't mean jackshit. I've contributed more than people who come in here, make a single lined post and disappear every 2 hours or so. (Ex - zarx, wildvine, notstan)

Agree with you here. POTALS are BS. Just like scum could never have a slipup and few errors, so can a townie have many slipups and errors. The only good use is that they might show which people should be looked at.

On topic of those 3, I'd say wildvine and zarx have higher possibilities of being scum. I believe notstan is just a little noobish. But maybe its because he hasn't posted much since I started reading this thread I feel that way...hmmm..

This is just amazing... My thoughts on Silver-Tiger are definitely not improving in the positive direction. 

What part of my post here is giving you headaches?

Oh this is interesting. 

Time limits - zarx, notstan, and final-fan want time limits. ALL 3 of them have voted No Lynch right now. Maybe if you manned up to take a risk and vote for linkz, especially since some of you probably wanted to, you wouldn't need a time limit right now. It also makes me wonder if they voted no lynch to try and stay away from the action and slip under the radar in the event that linkz is a mislynch, and are probably anxious to get to the night.

I take back what I said about notstan. He popped up to vote for a time limit, and didn't comment on anything else. Smells like mafia eager to get to the night, to prevent his scum tell from leaking out. Actually, its true for all 3 of these players, but notstan the most, with zarx close behind.

good to know I'm not the only one who saw that.

My Scum Suspects -

1. Linkz

For obvious reasons. Yet my suspicions on him are getting less confident as the day goes on. Maybe his "you're wrong, but i don't blame you" posts are fucking with my head. I don't know :/

2. Silver-Tiger

Ignorance of posts, possibly because he is mafia. 

As he mentioned once in the thread earlier, he hints that he may have a role that may be considered to be "evil" in GTA IV. Name =/= Alignment, yes, I understand, but his behaviour on this matter is odd.

Vote, unvote on linkz in VERY quick succession, and suddenly convinced he is pro-town afterwards ?

3. and 4. Vetteman and Stefl 

Suspect them because of their change of playstyle...especially stefl.

5, 6 and 7. Notstan, Zarx and Wildvine

Lack of contributions, mostly from Zarx and Wildvine. For Notstan, his early stumbles are also a reason.

Rest of you, I have no clue of... :/

Wonktonodi said:

Didn't know bomb could only be a pro town role. So that does make it much much less likely. Even with all the abominations we have seen in these games I'm pretty sure you are right.

Honestly this whole day has been so bizarre.  I think I would be a lot less confused if I DID think Linkz was lying scum.