funny you should say that

 Are you actually reading my posts?

1) As I explained, ABC PMed almost immediately after I said I would claim if people asked for it. I can't not answer for what he was thinking in explaining something by PM that was already stated in thread.

2) Before reading the PM I had reason to believe a roleclaim would negatively impact town, and now that's a certainty. I do not care that I'd be assuredly uncountered if I roleclaimed, and thus more probably not be lynched. I will not do it today.

Why would you say that?  Its not like he could possibly be talking about me as one of them

To answer this question:

I made sure there are enough chances for town to have a majority lynch, I will not say how many days though this will be true for.

I hadn't read my PM at that point. For all I knew, pro-town roles did say something along the lines of 'you win when town wins'(as dumb as that would be since it explains nothing as far as win condition) and thus you were gambiting as scum given the post from the sign-up thread.

The post from the sign-up thread does not indicate that ALL town roles weren't specifically told they're town in the PMs. It only says non-town were told they are non-town, but some pro-town could have also been informed. This is why it is metagaming. Picking apart PM talk is boderline modkillable due to the extent because of how it can break the game. Was nothing learned from the Youma incident?

So you FoS'd his explanation, because he paraphrases that his pm has a win condition in it that implies he wins with town yet it can't be a slip? Yeah, I disagree.

Forgive my lack of imagination but I can't think of a town role that's better dead than revealed.

No at that time I did not. I thought the logic there might be hard to understand. What I meant was town roles probably weren't specifically told they were town in their PMs. If the PMs didn't state 'you are town' then why give a win condition? The existence of a win condition itself should indicate that the role is pro-town.

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In order of appearance

my Non-content was more stringent this time than others, including parroted posts, contributing nothing NEW, or just asking people what they thought. Judging from the table, it doesn't seem like there's any active lurking going on. Heph was the only oddity near the beginning, having only 9NC vs 1C until linkz showed up. But I don't see that as much to go off of.

The only other oddities are as follows.

• linkz has made a total of 8 errors, either quoting the wrong people, thinking the wrong people said certain things, misunderstanding some posts, etc. (Though I also have to admit that at least one or two are accusations against people that I think are town)
• Mistakes this game are higher than I've ever seen in normal games. Guys, get it together please.
• Linkz is also abnormally sided on the content posting. I don't think there's anything to it, but it stands out. It's possible that being on the hot seat prompted this behavior, but I can't say it's not typical of linkz either. It's possible that it's the pressure, because earlier on he was about even with content and non content, and then almost every single post became content.
• Starting from page 4 or so, everyone had a typical increase reflective of their page 1-3, with a couple exceptions. Linkz, Heph, wildvine, Trucks, FF had increases more in content.  ST had an increase in non content and mistakes. Increase in content vs NC can be attributed to more arguments/discussions. So these people can be considered as very active. ST on the other hand increased parroting and talking about non-issues.

The possible slips I saw were notstan's nonsequitor about stefl/prof mafia team, and ST's "maybe townies are evil". That is to say, I did notice other ones. I just don't find them very telling. Like Vette's "when I'm town".

The Notstan scenario:

Trucks FoS' Notstan for using reasoning based on stats. Notstan says, "well, what are the odds they are both scum?". St says 50/50 chance. Stefl says Notstan is being wishy-washy and is prof's scumbuddy, because of the ,"stefl/prof; only one is town" quote. Stefl and Trucks say odds are no different from last game. Odds discussion continues for several posts. Trucks asks again about the "pair". Prof votes Notstan for the "only one of them" statement. Wildvine agrees with Trucks. Notstan explains his comment, shooting it down. Trucks says it's weird to bring it up and shoot it down.

The Linkz scenario:

Heph finds a problem, votes. Wildvine FoSes, Notstan FoSes. Truck points out many scum reasons for not reading PM, also votes. Wild seems to not know the situation but votes as well. Prof votes seeing similarities to previous scum. Linkz gives a pretty weak example of how it also helps town, citing siblings last game. Linkz quotes stefl, who made a grammar mistake (stefl said, "I don't get that: I didn't look at my role yet"), and asks why stefls is on his ass if he didnt read his pm either.  Wonk warns that LInkz ay give away an active role (like a vote role). Comments that writing it in the thread allows scummates forewarning. Notstan has no idea why reading or not reading matters, defends linkz that his pm could say "town", furthermore saying that even if it says scum, he'll just say town anyway. Stefl comments that Linkz situation is lynchable, but shouldn't be rushed into. ST parrots some ideas, then votes. Prof asks nobody to talk about roles until after linkz claims, saying people that do are likely mafia. Wonk starts to gambit. Heph unvotes. ST unvotes, urging linkz to read his PM. Linkz explains a little. Heph FoSes ST for bandwagoning. Weird post by linkz "oh lookie, here's a new pm and I'm town". ST says he hasn't lost suspicion for linkz, despite in his unvote saying, "I don't get the vibe he's scum".

My top suspects are Notstan, ST, Linkz, Wildvine, FF (FF only just barely).

Today, my prospects for lynch are in this order: ST, Notstan, Linkz. But I'm willing to negotiate.

I didn't bring up last game, I brought up my second game where I was a one-shot vig.

Last game I would've defended ABC even if I was vanilla, until it was clear he was lying. That's just how I would handle a claim like that. The read you guys had on me(being cop) lacked some deeper thinking,(why scan the player I'm the one going after the strongest. It would only serve to out me if I halted on a clean scan and wasn't necessary to continue the push) but it is evidence that once I have non-vanilla knowledge I give off a power tell.

To reinterate

-I TOLD THE PLAYERS WHO ARE NOT TOWN THAT THEY ARE NOT TOWN IN THEIR PMs. IF YOU DID NOT RECIEVE AN ALIGNMENT IN YOUR PM OR IF I TOLD YOU YOU WERE PROTOWN, YOU ARE PRO-TOWN.-