Oh man, that went right over my head.  Now Heph's post makes sense.

Why are people making such a big deal about that post please explain?

you said that the PMs when you have pro-town roles say you win when the town win. By saying When, it seems like you don't have a Pro town role this game. I assumed you were talking about past games, but Final Fan and Heph think it could have been a slip up of you revealing an anti-town role for this game.

You mean why not take the chance that they missed it? Only way I see that happening is if the mafia are all bad players, and if that's the case then town shouldn't have a problem winning regardless. IF they did someone miss it, it still hurts town if Wonk goes unclaimed, but it has nothing to do with him being in danger of being lynched. Had town gone into what they thought was lylo with Wonk unclaimed it would already be a loss barring night actions giving a chance to win. And if it were mylo town might choose to not lynch thinking they could get more information at night, but would likely lose outright if he wasn't targeted. Futhermore, voteless isn't always a pro-town role nor does it exclude having some night ability if pro-town. The only thing I was after was Wonk's ability to vote or not, because that should always be considered for the future days.

The no lynch last round only gave town the extra day because of how the game later played out. Two early mislynches last round and there's no way the backup mafia is activated. I don't understand your no lynch advocacy talk. prof didn't end the day on no lynch though he did vote it at one point, and I was completely for a lynch there.

I am personally not prepared to make a case against someone based on a presumption of how the mod would word someone else's PM (not everyone uses the same template for all roles), and additionally this is skating on thin ice as far as what is kosher metagaming IMO. 

But to break it down for you, Heph is figuring that if you say your PM says "you win when the town wins" then you're lying scum ... or something similar to that. 

Wildvine didn't see that, and I told him.  That's all. 

The questions to people asking what they want is mostly rhetorical. I've already stated myself how nothing I say is likely to believed, and that itself is a reason not to read my PM since it would do no good for the people voting me.

I'm willing to nameclaim. There would be no need to fake a roleclaim, because and with this much suspicion there's no way to pro-town lie about my roleclaim so as to either not make myself a night target or to make myself a night target so the other townies that actually have usefl roles would be less likely to be killed. There's no way to lie about it because if I have no ability then I won't be able to fake having one,(or at the least I'd have to be very lucky) and if I have an ability then I'm going to be hung down the road when I fess up. As such I would definitely have to tell the absolute truth, which townies aren't going to believe fully, but it will offer scum information that I'd rather they not have.

By the way I've already picked up on a few hints of roles, so if I were scum I would know a few to avoid. I haven't pointed any of them out, because if the people are actual town it would be bad to out them as they don't have roles that could be detrimental to town if unclaimed. I'll be looking for a change in tune or a conflucting roleclaim down the line in case they're scum so I can then point them out though.

Ah, i see now

Why did you feel the need to point this out without saying anything about it?

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I'm not sure I really like your trust, but right now I need to take every ally I can get to not be lynched. On a similar note, though I think he's scum, NotStan seems unwilling to vote for me, so for self-preservation I shouldn't be trying to get him lynched or he'll be forced to vote me for his own sake.

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I was going to say something but i'll wait for linkz to catch up first. I'll be back in a little while.